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Quick fix for the boarder #6264221
06/21/18 09:09 AM
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Put a $1000.00 pently on Mexico. For every person it lets cross its Southern boarder,on their way here.

Or stop all aid payments to Mexico.And send them South of their boarder.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264226
06/21/18 09:17 AM
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What if we ran our borders like the rest of the world and gunned down people trying to enter illegally? Might slow the progression, eh?


"The voice of reason!"
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264276
06/21/18 10:56 AM
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It would be cheaper and easier for us to help develop legitimate jobs geared towards Central America. Something along the lines of, “give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, clean and market those fish, and he’ll stay home because he has a job”.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264282
06/21/18 11:06 AM
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Newt, if you do that, the only people passing through will be the drug dealers. I think we already have enough drug dealers here.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264285
06/21/18 11:14 AM
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It's not up to the U.S. to create jobs in other countries just so they don't come here illegally. People come here for our social safety net. While illegals aren't supposed to get benefits in many states they do. Land mines with a low fence, wouldn't take long and they would quit coming.

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Teacher] #6264288
06/21/18 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Teacher
It would be cheaper and easier for us to help develop legitimate jobs geared towards Central America. Something along the lines of, “give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, clean and market those fish, and he’ll stay home because he has a job”.
I often wonder if you have ever been correct about anything in your entire life? How about Kicking all of the illegals … (I'll say it again in case you missed the point ILLEGALS) out of the country and develop good legitimate jobs for American citizens as well as the immigrants that came here LEGALLY! It's a crime to just walk across the boarder and if you do it twice it's a FELONY! If you want to help Central America so much, I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms, put your money where your mouth is and go start a business down there. Better yet, I hear Syria is nice this time of year.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264290
06/21/18 11:18 AM
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2X Fix the world on the US dime while spending none of his own money! Cali has prisons full of illegals and on the welfare rolls I think we have paid enough!


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264323
06/21/18 12:26 PM
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Ya'll know what I think about this.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264367
06/21/18 01:32 PM
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a quick fix , freeze all wire transfers to Mexico , and other south american countries. till we can be sure no illegally earned money is leaving the US. Mexico depends on this cash as 1/3 of their GDP.

in the mean time all that cash will have to sit in the US either making interest or buying stuff.

we need to secure our currency and banking.

when wire transfers open back up they can be taxed at 10% for every dollar leaving the US. legitimate workers can file that as part of their income taxes and get back 5% as can companies and citizens.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6264373
06/21/18 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE
a quick fix , freeze all wire transfers to Mexico , and other south american countries. till we can be sure no illegally earned money is leaving the US. Mexico depends on this cash as 1/3 of their GDP.

in the mean time all that cash will have to sit in the US either making interest or buying stuff.

we need to secure our currency and banking.

when wire transfers open back up they can be taxed at 10% for every dollar leaving the US. legitimate workers can file that as part of their income taxes and get back 5% as can companies and citizens.


This would immediately stop most illegal aliens, that don't want to permanently move to the United States from coming here. The illegal aliens already here to make money to send back home would probably leave or find other ways to send money back home. The illegal aliens that want to move here permanently, would keep coming.

Keith

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264379
06/21/18 01:56 PM
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You have to think if illegals helped the economy so much then Cali would be printing their own money by now! wink


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Finster] #6264380
06/21/18 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Finster
Originally Posted By: Teacher
It would be cheaper and easier for us to help develop legitimate jobs geared towards Central America. Something along the lines of, “give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, clean and market those fish, and he’ll stay home because he has a job”.
I often wonder if you have ever been correct about anything in your entire life? How about Kicking all of the illegals … (I'll say it again in case you missed the point ILLEGALS) out of the country and develop good legitimate jobs for American citizens as well as the immigrants that came here LEGALLY! It's a crime to just walk across the boarder and if you do it twice it's a FELONY! If you want to help Central America so much, I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms, put your money where your mouth is and go start a business down there. Better yet, I hear Syria is nice this time of year.


X3

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Finster] #6264384
06/21/18 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Finster
Originally Posted By: Teacher
It would be cheaper and easier for us to help develop legitimate jobs geared towards Central America. Something along the lines of, “give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, clean and market those fish, and he’ll stay home because he has a job”.
I often wonder if you have ever been correct about anything in your entire life? How about Kicking all of the illegals … (I'll say it again in case you missed the point ILLEGALS) out of the country and develop good legitimate jobs for American citizens as well as the immigrants that came here LEGALLY! It's a crime to just walk across the boarder and if you do it twice it's a FELONY! If you want to help Central America so much, I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms, put your money where your mouth is and go start a business down there. Better yet, I hear Syria is nice this time of year.

X4 or trade people that want to work and better themselves for welfare recipients and school teachers. The school teachers are a bonus that aren't counted in the trade sense those poor underdeveloped countries need education so badly.!

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264386
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Oh the other fix is to bus the families up to Canada and let them walk across the border and ask for asylum. I bet after a few thousand Canada would chip in to help build the Wall!

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: KeithC] #6264388
06/21/18 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: KeithC
Originally Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE
a quick fix , freeze all wire transfers to Mexico , and other south american countries. till we can be sure no illegally earned money is leaving the US. Mexico depends on this cash as 1/3 of their GDP.

in the mean time all that cash will have to sit in the US either making interest or buying stuff.

we need to secure our currency and banking.

when wire transfers open back up they can be taxed at 10% for every dollar leaving the US. legitimate workers can file that as part of their income taxes and get back 5% as can companies and citizens.


This would immediately stop most illegal aliens, that don't want to permanently move to the United States from coming here. The illegal aliens already here to make money to send back home would probably leave or find other ways to send money back home. The illegal aliens that want to move here permanently, would keep coming.

Keith


it is a very complex issue 50+ years in the making , but do what you can and use what you can to pay for other enforcement.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264410
06/21/18 03:36 PM
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mexico has plenty of natural resources. including oil and rich farm ground. if they don't want things to change there economically why should we?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264413
06/21/18 03:45 PM
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Sending their people here is a sweet business for them as they send back billions for the Mexican economy and they don't need to lift a finger!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: trapperkeck] #6264488
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Originally Posted By: trapperkeck
What if we ran our borders like the rest of the world and gunned down people trying to enter illegally? Might slow the progression, eh?


Yeah, that's what the commies did at the Berlin wall. We ain't them, thank God. If you really think this way, I assume you'll volunteer be one up there gunning down little kids and women.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264490
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Done upset the snowflakes now~ LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264558
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As long as this country is as divid d as it is , there will be no easy fix for the wall.

The only way I see is for the younger generation to see how bad it has gotten and then raise their children the right way, because to many of the current young are to far gone to bring back to reality


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: trapperkeck] #6264588
06/21/18 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: trapperkeck
What if we ran our borders like the rest of the world and gunned down people trying to enter illegally? Might slow the progression, eh?


Yep


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Teacher] #6264589
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Originally Posted By: Teacher
It would be cheaper and easier for us to help develop legitimate jobs geared towards Central America. Something along the lines of, “give a man a fish and you’ll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, clean and market those fish, and he’ll stay home because he has a job”.



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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264667
06/21/18 10:55 PM
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Why are we so concerned about establishing a better life for foreigners in there own country than we are about rewarding
those that have done so much furthering our own! Benefits for all is a by-product of those that produce!
Why hang weight on that tree!

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264678
06/21/18 11:09 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/politics/trump-immigration-border-family-separation.html

Yep..here it is, US is going into the migrant camp business..These people are coming the ones in the front are telling the ones in the back to come. The US government does not know what to do that's why their is so much confusion..Someone pointed out the divison in the country is actually opening the door to illegals because of stagnation of enforcement of existing immigration laws.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264737
06/22/18 04:56 AM
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Easy answer.

Keep the family together, (detained).

The laws read that we can not detain the children for more than 20 days;

In the past we have released the family with a promise to appear at their hearing and they disappear into the country and fail to show up.
Which is what many of these "Families" count on, and the reason that they bring the entire family.

so if no hearing has been conducted on day 20, release the family either back to their home country or another country BUT NOT into the United States of America.

NO "catch and release" into the USA.

Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: dallas] #6264804
06/22/18 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: dallas
As long as this country is as divid d as it is , there will be no easy fix for the wall.

The only way I see is for the younger generation to see how bad it has gotten and then raise their children the right way, because to many of the current young are to far gone to bring back to reality

A lot of truth in this statement.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264818
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Forget the quick fix. Let's go directly to a permanent fix.

The target isn't the people, it's their motivation. Money. Once we start treating their employers like the parasites that they are; the flow will stop.


Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264824
06/22/18 09:04 AM
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5000 dollar fine for anyone that hires an illegal. The company will have to do a background check. I took a job recently that requires me to get a background check and fingerprinted. It cost 80 bucks. Surely a company can pay that instead of a 5000 dollar fine.

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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264832
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easy fix. We have work that needs to be done! You get arrested you work. Men women.... Children caught will be in a daycare this will be deducted and added for the hours you owe. First time yout caught you get a warning and you sign a binding contract. Second time your caught you owe this country 40 hours labor cleaning our streets, helping schools keep up property, painting bridges...... you do work we need done! Each time your caught it doubles! You fear our places fill up? LOL military style tent housing only! We will provide you safety. by means of guards. Each group will be housed separately by the amount of time being served. You will be given all the water you want to drink. You will get 3 MRE meals a day. Plus two servings of snacks. There will be no store, there will be no bull! You will be with your children when you don't work. When the work busses leave the daycare providers will take over. If you have children the amount of time you owe goes up by 10% what the child would owe as an adult. We will lease our work crews to farmers for a VERY low cost If the farmer can show a need and is approved.

If they wont work? They go to jail! The time owed is multiplied by ten.


i smell
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264836
06/22/18 09:16 AM
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigrat...n-southwest-key

Yep..Here it is right here. Migrants are a very..very..big business opportunity.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264845
06/22/18 09:29 AM
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While they are cracking down, now...

A bunch of Somali's in Minnesota have day care centers that receive federal funds for each child that attends:
  • the roster gets grossly overstated with kids that check in in the morning and leave immediately with their parents. Probably to check in with another facility.
  • The owner collects from the government, giving a cut to some of its enablers
  • The owner takes his suitcases full of cash and makes a day trip back to the old country.
  • Monday morning he is back home counting non existent kids

Yip migrant kids can be a great business.


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264846
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One day, they will bring AI (Artificial Intelligence) to CBP. Put an electric fence along the whole Southern Border. Does not have to be much. Just 3 strands of 4 point Barbed Wire about 4 Feet in Height. Electrify the whole length . Where AI comes in, computer controlled AI operated Machine Gun towers every 1000 Yards along the whole US / Mexico Border. Could even include ground penetrating sensors , to detect people trying to tunnel under the Border.

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My concern isn't so much about folks wanting to make a little money. I am more concerned with destruction of our country from within. There are any number of foreign countries who would love to conquer the U.S.A.. They know they cannot win a head to head military battle with us, but a porous border and gun control, you have the perfect scenario for taking control of a super- power without firing a shot!


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Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Newt] #6264862
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Yep..Looks to me like the USA actually supports illegals. If the USA didn't support illegals there would be no US tax dollars spent on facility's. You can't have it both ways.


I can catch them here...I can catch them ANYWHERE
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Law Dog] #6264864
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Done upset the snowflakes now~ LOL


Many years ago I worked with a young woman from chzecoslakia, and found out she was sleeping in her car and had no place to live, and I tried to find her a place to rent cheaply. I can't remember if she was legal or if her visa had expired, and it didn't matter. Funny thing is my tough guy, gun loving, redneck friend also tried to help her out. I find that what people say and what they do are often two different things. If being a compassioniate human makes me a snowflake, I hope I continue to be one.

It's easy to talk tough but not so easy to be a dirt bag to a needy person in real life.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Quick fix for the boarder [Re: Canvasback2] #6264866
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Originally Posted By: Canvasback2
One day, they will bring AI (Artificial Intelligence) to CBP. Put an electric fence along the whole Southern Border. Does not have to be much. Just 3 strands of 4 point Barbed Wire about 4 Feet in Height. Electrify the whole length . Where AI comes in, computer controlled AI operated Machine Gun towers every 1000 Yards along the whole US / Mexico Border. Could even include ground penetrating sensors , to detect people trying to tunnel under the Border.


Does that nonsense make you feel tough? Those on here that profess to condone murder to fix our immigration problem are either brain dead or just plain evil, or both. You remind me of the people who assisted the rise of Hitler in the 1930's. I am ashamed to be associated with any of you.


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If it fits, wear it proudly. I was born in 1935 and remember the reporting clearly. I was warped as a child. That must be my problem.

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Thanks! Good people, those Catholics.


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Originally Posted By: Jarhead620
Originally Posted By: Canvasback2
One day, they will bring AI (Artificial Intelligence) to CBP. Put an electric fence along the whole Southern Border. Does not have to be much. Just 3 strands of 4 point Barbed Wire about 4 Feet in Height. Electrify the whole length . Where AI comes in, computer controlled AI operated Machine Gun towers every 1000 Yards along the whole US / Mexico Border. Could even include ground penetrating sensors , to detect people trying to tunnel under the Border.


Does that nonsense make you feel tough? Those on here that profess to condone murder to fix our immigration problem are either brain dead or just plain evil, or both. You remind me of the people who assisted the rise of Hitler in the 1930's. I am ashamed to be associated with any of you.


Jarhead



Ok, take away the machine gun towers laugh

How about just having the electric fence ?

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Send every citizen in this country to their local courthouse with a birth certificate and a pictured ID to get a new social security card. The new card would be one that has a hologram security band with a photo. Anyone hires someone without the card they get fined and a jail term, see how fast the hiring of illegals would stop.

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OK Can. If you take away the Machine Guns I'll OK non-lethal fence chargers.

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Maybe if we had a little of that comprimise in Congress, we could get a bill that both increases border security and allows DACAs to become citizens.


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I can't, for the life of me, figure out why this country feels we need any more people, REGARDLESS of where they are from or for what reason ...
I vote we shut the gates around every port of entry, not just Mexico.
Stop bringing these people in, ship a bunch of them back. LOCK THE DOOR...

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We need more labor to grow the economy. If economy doesn't grow at a steady rate to at least match inflation, the whole house of cards comes down.

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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I can't, for the life of me, figure out why this country feels we need any more people, REGARDLESS of where they are from or for what reason ...
I vote we shut the gates around every port of entry, not just Mexico.
Stop bringing these people in, ship a bunch of them back. LOCK THE DOOR...
agreed


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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I can't, for the life of me, figure out why this country feels we need any more people, REGARDLESS of where they are from or for what reason ...
I vote we shut the gates around every port of entry, not just Mexico.
Stop bringing these people in, ship a bunch of them back. LOCK THE DOOR...
agreed
However, I don't begrudge someone coming here the correct way. Except for Muslims. None of them should step foot on the soil.


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The 'correct way' was a way put together by government suit dummies who cannot even get together to pass a budget. Meanwhile, the businesses that fund the cesspool of government suit dummies need labor to pay for said government suit dummies. The 'legal' way to immigrate is obviously too expensive, tedious and filled with bureaucracy to work effectively. "Government, fix theyself."

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Originally Posted By: Finster
Originally Posted By: LT GREY
I can't, for the life of me, figure out why this country feels we need any more people, REGARDLESS of where they are from or for what reason ...
I vote we shut the gates around every port of entry, not just Mexico.
Stop bringing these people in, ship a bunch of them back. LOCK THE DOOR...
agreed


Yep, and when people bring the arguement up....Yur ancesters immigrated here....They are forgeting that over half this country was inhabitated back then.

It's a different world/country togay than 200 years ago.

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If that were the case, that our country is full-up, it can be changed legislatively by a political majority in federal government. However, I do not see ANY political party talking about shutting the door to immigration.

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I believe the opinion of shutting off our country to immigration is driven more by racism than by logical thought.

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huh?

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
We need more labor to grow the economy. If economy doesn't grow at a steady rate to at least match inflation, the whole house of cards comes down.



Miillons on welfare and miillons on bogus disability ......chop it all ............new work force established


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I believe the opinion of shutting off our country to immigration is driven more by racism than by logical thought.



You ever been to a city overrun with illegals ?

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We need more labor to grow the economy. If economy doesn't grow at a steady rate to at least match inflation, the whole house of cards comes down.


We've got the labor force. It's been sitting around collecting welfare. Most of them could get off the couch and go to work...

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And then there is "THIS"

‘IT’S A HUMAN RIGHT’: MEXICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ON MASS EXODUS TO AMERICA

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/

Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,” eluniversal.com reports.

While the election is not until July 1, Obrador is by far the frontrunner.

Obrador in April delivered speech criticizing Trump and promising that Mexico will not become a “piñata” for any foreign government, Global News reports.

The former mayor of Mexico City, Obrador holds progressive populist views. The 64-year-old ran unsuccessfully for president twice before, according to DW.

Fox’s Tucker Carlson noted Thursday that Obrador has previously proposed granting amnesty to Mexican drug cartels. “America is now Mexico’s social safety net, and that’s a very good deal for the Mexican ruling class,” Carlson added

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44585716


Yep..233 million to support 25,000 for 6 months!!!!!!

Is it coincidental about the all new internet sales tax?

$932.00 a day per person..There are Americans in this country that make that amount gross per month..

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They are already at 50,000,000 strong in the United States of America . Miles ahead of the muzzies in the eventual control of the United States of America .

People of this country need to pull their heads out before it's too late !

BUILD THE WALL ! ............NOW


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As many as possible want to get to the USA before 2020,when the next jubilee(re-distribution of all wealth and erasing of all debt) will take place.

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Is there a political party who has a platform of eliminating government welfare programs? As it is obvious that it will be a political movement that will bring about changes in government policy and programs.
If you believe the party that is in power now has the elimination of welfare as its platform you'd be sadly disappointed. As far as I can find, there is only one party who has the elimination of GOVERNMENT welfare programs as part of its platform. You'll have to research that yourself.

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Gee , let me guess..........the losertarian pot head party


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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Gee , let me guess..........the losertarian pot head party

You don't have to guess, it is easily research. If elimination of government welfare is important to you, vote accordingly. If half measures and 'reform' of existing welfare schemes is more your style; continue on.

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Don't send them back to Mexico, SEND THEM TO IRAN!! That'll stop the flow! grin

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Yep..I hate to think what is going to happen when one of migrants dies in US custody even if it's natural causes.


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Gee , let me guess..........the losertarian pot head party

You don't have to guess, it is easily research. If elimination of government welfare is important to you, vote accordingly. If half measures and 'reform' of existing welfare schemes is more your style; continue on.
Yawn...……... sleep

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