Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
[Re: nyhuntfish]
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06/29/18 08:35 PM
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Marty
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This is interesting from Snopes:
An analysis of Ted Nugent’s Selective Service classification record doesn’t prove or disprove either version of the story. He did indeed receive a high school student deferment (1-S) in 1967 and then (as he stated) a college student deferment (2-S) in 1968. However, he was reclassified as “available for military service” (1-A) in 1969 and then subsequently rejected as a result of a physical examination and given a 1-Y classification. (The 1-Y classification denoted persons “qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency” and was generally assigned to registrants who had exhibited medical conditions that were limiting but not disabling.) After the 1-Y classification was eliminated by the Selective Service at the end of 1971, Nugent was reclassified as 4-F (“registrant not qualified for any military service”).
So, Ted Nugent did have a student deferment for part of the time he was eligible for the Vietnam-era draft, but he also did fail a physical examination and receive a medical exemption (which, as far as we know, he has neither acknowledged nor explained).......( I will add here that the High Times interview does explain this)......But in the absence of more specific information about the results of that physical examination and the reasons for his medical exemption, it cannot be ascertained how truthful the account Nugent gave to High Times magazine back in 1977 might be. (Ted Nugent’s press representative did not respond to a request for additional information about this subject.)
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/29/18 08:40 PM
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Actually the facts are correct. His words in the interview which he did not say he was misquoted in after its release. His selective service record has him rejected as a result of physical examination in 1969.....which jives with the story. He also admitted in an interview with Creem magazine that he took crystal meth before that physical. ". And one line of crystal methedrine before my draft physical". His words. Of course now he denies everything he said then....because it is in his best interest. He never denied it back then because that was in his best interest.
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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How would you know what he said, you said you won't listen to him lol.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/29/18 08:53 PM
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How would you know what he said, you said you won't listen to him lol. I do not listen to his bumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), but I know how to read and research....plus I have a good memory, other than getting some magazine names mixed up. I am waiting for you to back up your statement that I had WRONG EVERYTHING with some facts. Other than what he claims now..
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
[Re: nyhuntfish]
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06/29/18 09:08 PM
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Listen to him and get the real facts, creem and hightimes aren't gospel lol.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/29/18 11:35 PM
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Listen to him and get the real facts, creem and hightimes aren't gospel lol. Yup, get HIS real facts......that's a joke. His facts differ from the selective service records. Kinda casts a shadow on them being facts. If the Creem and High Times interviews were false why did he not correct that information at the time they were published?
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
[Re: nyhuntfish]
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06/30/18 07:28 AM
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Marty, a lot of B.S. for only listing for 30 sec. He does not beat around the bush! JMO
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/30/18 10:03 AM
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Hasn't he done alot of stuff for the great outdoors and the 2nd?
Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it .... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad NRA LIFE MEMBER, Endowment Member
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/30/18 10:06 AM
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Listen to him and get the real facts, creem and hightimes aren't gospel lol. Yup, get HIS real facts......that's a joke. His facts differ from the selective service records. Kinda casts a shadow on them being facts. If the Creem and High Times interviews were false why did he not correct that information at the time they were published? You believe the excellent journalism at High Times magazine? Some of you people are total hypocrites. There is a man out there pushing for almost everything that we believe in. He mentioned trapping numerous times in the interview. The interview was three and a half hours long. If some of you can’t figure out how to listen to an interview while doing something else then you need help. Man I can’t believe the people here who are so darn negative all the time. Nobody is perfect. I can’t think of anyone here who is going on the Joe Rogan show pushing trapping. Whatever.
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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How about Cassius Clay the great boxer. How about Jane Fonda.
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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How about Cassius Clay the great boxer. How about Jane Fonda. Ted is as bad as either of them, and his crazy loud mouthed self promotion hurts hunters and gun owners.
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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The selective service act is about as anti-american as it gets, in my opinion. My opinion has changed drastically about it. At one time I believed that citizens had a solemn duty to lay down their lives at the alter of freedom when demanded. At one time in our republic that may have been right, proper and moral. It is hard to say for sure because I did not live through them. I believe the most basic trait of what it is that makes one American is respect of the individual over the collective. That the individual owns and is responsible for his body is a pretty important thing when you get thinking about it. Having said that, one might think I am anti-war (I am) and am naive about what it takes to keep our country free. I would offer that none of our current conflicts keep us free and have, in fact, made us less free. In regards to future conflicts or war (if we ever bother to declare one again), it is imperative that those politicians who need military fighting men be eloquent enough to explain to 18-30 year olds exactly why they need to fight, and what is worth fighting for in order to induce them to fight without compulsion, threat of force and with a happy heart. What a concept. In regards to Ted Nugent being a draft dodger, well whatever.
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/30/18 11:20 AM
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Me too. Not so sure I can hold much against a guy for doing something I don't agree with, what 40 years ago? 18 years olds are suppose to be stupid. Least I was. Today, hasn't he been a strong supporter of our military?
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Re: Ted Nugent Interview Today: ammo against the anti
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06/30/18 11:44 AM
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The selective service act is about as anti-american as it gets, in my opinion. My opinion has changed drastically about it. At one time I believed that citizens had a solemn duty to lay down their lives at the alter of freedom when demanded. At one time in our republic that may have been right, proper and moral. It is hard to say for sure because I did not live through them. I believe the most basic trait of what it is that makes one American is respect of the individual over the collective. That the individual owns and is responsible for his body is a pretty important thing when you get thinking about it. Having said that, one might think I am anti-war (I am) and am naive about what it takes to keep our country free. I would offer that none of our current conflicts keep us free and have, in fact, made us less free. In regards to future conflicts or war (if we ever bother to declare one again), it is imperative that those politicians who need military fighting men be eloquent enough to explain to 18-30 year olds exactly why they need to fight, and what is worth fighting for in order to induce them to fight without compulsion, threat of force and with a happy heart. What a concept. In regards to Ted Nugent being a draft dodger, well whatever. Yep..I agree 100% and then some..I have had many a job that I drug up on. I even to this day tell anyone that thinks they have any control over me even at the slightest hint of telling me anything. I HAVE THE LAST SAY-SO IN WHAT I WILL DO OR NOT DO..any time..everytime...
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