Canada Goose Accountability
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So, I saw the NTA president's report mentioned here the other day, and finally got our magazine and read it. It's a fairly long article, and although Chris and I usually don't see eye to eye, I agree with him 100% on this issue.
Basically, most of you have probably heard mentioned on here before about Canada Goose and their accountability labeling. Due to pressure from the antis, they want to be able to say that their fur was humanely caught.
Now, it appears their plan is to send a representative from Canada Goose to every state that allows them to, and go on the line with 5 trappers from that state, to see if the fur is being humanely caught. If it is, the representative will then certify that state as being a humane state, and that state's trapper's association will be given "humane fur" tags to distribute however they want to the association members, who can then use the tags to tag their furs before selling. Idea being, humane fur will bring a higher price on the auctions, and from the other buyers, than untagged, "inhumane" fur.
The NTA president's stance appears to be against this plan, as I would have thought everyone would be. I mean, what could possibly go wrong here?
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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They wont have to do that here,we have been harvesting with Traps that comply to the international certified humane standards for 20 years or so.We were the first country to do so under the international agreement and were instrumental in developing the humane traps and standards that we are so proud of here. One of our early OTA presidents,the great Alcide Giroux who passed away recently and an Icon in Canadian fur trapping circles actually kick started the The Humane trapping movement in Canada and supplied seed money to the FIC to leverage money from the governments to get the state of the art trap testing facility in Vegreville Alberta up and running.This facility is responsible for the majority of great certified killing traps that trappers have in their hands today.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Sounds like they know our states will tell them to pound sand, so they're going to follow a couple hand picked trappers to certify a whole state. Interesting
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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They wont have to do that here,we have been harvesting with Traps that comply to the international certified humane standards for 20 years or so.We were the first country to do so under the international agreement and were instrumental in developing the humane traps and standards that we are so proud of here. One of our early OTA presidents,the great Alcide Giroux who passed away recently and an Icon in Canadian fur trapping circles actually kick started the The Humane trapping movement in Canada and supplied seed money to the FIC to leverage money from the governments to get the state of the art trap testing facility in Vegreville Alberta up and running.This facility is responsible for the majority of great certified killing traps that trappers have in their hands today. Yes, Boco, I'm aware that Canada bowed down to the EU long ago.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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No we were well ahead of the EU.We started humane trapping before the EU thought they could shut down trapping.Little did they know we were way ahead and had traps that far exceeded what they thought no one could achieve. Alcide was a visionary.A great man.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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No boco Canada and Russia threw the U.S.A under the bus on that deal, but re write history how you want.
Hopefully Canada Goose won't be able to find any coyotes for their over priced junk they sell to yuppie's!
But im sure many states will cave to their demands so down another slippery slope we go.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Is it unreasonable to keep an end-user customer happy? The one hot fur in North America is coyotes largely because of this customer.
Looking at the bigger picture, traps in the US have done little to get ahead of the PR problems that have ended trapping in several states. The gameplan has always been reactive, which is too late. I think it IS unreasonable to keep ONE customer happy if they can dictate your entire method of operation. Camel, nose, tent. Except they are not dictating anything other than their own buying preferences. And they have significantly expanded the end user market in North America.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Except they are not dictating anything other than their own buying preferences. And they have significantly expanded the end user market in North America.
Well that is the question though. Although they have said they don't want to force any one to change any laws... their mission statement on their website says otherwise. It states they will only use fur that was caught using AIHTS or BMP methods. No states mandate BMPs currently.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Snares are an extremely humane device,except those set by untrained wahoos.(like any trapping device) A ram snare or one with a kill spring set properly will kill quicker than a 330. A snare can also be constructed and set to humanely hold an animal alive so long as check times are not too long. J trap nobody threw the americans under any bus,you negotiated a separate agreement on your own.Trump can get you out of it if you don't like it,hes good at not living up to international agreements.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Except they are not dictating anything other than their own buying preferences. And they have significantly expanded the end user market in North America.
Well that is the question though. Although they have said they don't want to force any one to change any laws... their mission statement on their website says otherwise. It states they will only use fur that was caught using AIHTS or BMP methods. No states mandate BMPs currently. And now we're back to White's comment to mine at the begining. Who knows what laws this company might decide is "humane" to them, and what laws they may try to push. Maybe even on the unsuspecting Boco.
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Re: Canada Goose Accountability
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Next thing they'll want is a death certificate filled out by a veterinarian.
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