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#6275250 - 07/08/18 09:51 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
4488 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 767
Loc: Indiana
Thank you Marty Raccoon are selling for a couple of bucks. Ranch mink sold for the cost of one weeks food in some cases, and almost all that sold did not bring production cost. If anyone can put a little whipped cream on this then have a nice snack. I am most likely invested more than anyone on this forum in wild fur (and btw,I try to avoid this forum) but it does reach a lot of wild fur producers. My best advice----quit producing.

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#6275261 - 07/08/18 10:09 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: 4488]
pass-thru Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2587
Loc: Va
Originally Posted By: 4488
My best advice----quit producing.



That's exactly what needs to happen...but it won't anytime soon. Trappers are penny wise and pound foolish. Just look at the Canada Goose thread.

I sent a few pelts up for this year for the first time in 4 years. A fox I caught last year that looked surprisingly good for sitting in a freezer over a year, and some beaver and castor from a damage job this winter. None of it sold. I was hoping with the rising cost of oil things would start to move. Apparently not. When the economy crashed in 08 it fur for about a year and then popped back quickly. This is much more severe. Started with Crimea and then the dropping price of oil.

The first 2 years I cut back on trapping and sold hold my pelts having had them professionally tanned. Decent return but that market seems to have been exhausted. So I will just stick to ADC jobs until the fur market is back solid, if ever. I will trap coyotes on my place but that will be it.

Just as alarming is the way trappers and the fur industry have seemingly abandoned the North American market. Fur adds value to fashion and it would be embraced my many. But without a marketing foundation it won't move itself. Oh well.

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#6275264 - 07/08/18 10:14 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: pass-thru]
bblwi Online   content
trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 4374
Loc: East-Central Wisconsin
Wow I had 1 xsm rat that sold for .60. My 54 2xl-3xl-1* rats were all bought back. It seems that there is not a real market for the bigger better grade rats at this time.

Bryce

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#6275308 - 07/09/18 12:05 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: 4488]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
Originally Posted By: 4488
Thank you Marty Raccoon are selling for a couple of bucks. Ranch mink sold for the cost of one weeks food in some cases, and almost all that sold did not bring production cost. If anyone can put a little whipped cream on this then have a nice snack. I am most likely invested more than anyone on this forum in wild fur (and btw,I try to avoid this forum) but it does reach a lot of wild fur producers. My best advice----quit producing.
......prayers sent......stop buying!


Edited by wallfur (07/09/18 12:12 AM)

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#6275310 - 07/09/18 12:32 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
with the ranch fur production worldwide controlling the market, our wild fur production makes a very small difference in price in the overall scheme of things.


Edited by wallfur (07/09/18 12:34 AM)

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#6275370 - 07/09/18 06:18 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Michigan Trappin Offline
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Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 3916
Loc: Southwest Michigan
I certainly hope this changes soon, as I've been having all my furs tanned and selling them but as someone else said that market is now saturated too

For the last two years I was selling the tanned goods in less than six months, now I'm sitting on coon like the speculators are. Nice thing is mine isn't going stale but it cost way more per pelt

Time to find myself a new market I guess. This seasons pelts will be sold raw again, as I still have 50 + at tanneries and some beaver that still have to.be sent in (they are already spoken for) Guess the bad market finally caught up to me

But the bright side is ADC work is up and it pays more per critter

You gotta love trapping to keep laying steel this season, and I'll be laying steel
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#6275506 - 07/09/18 10:49 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
Private treaty...anything selling?

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#6275520 - 07/09/18 11:24 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Bigmeat Online   content
trapper

Registered: 05/14/09
Posts: 75
Loc: Hagerstown,MD
Sold 3 MD coon PT for 12 a piece , all in the same lot. Tickled with that

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#6275726 - 07/09/18 06:17 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: pass-thru]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
Originally Posted By: pass-thru
Originally Posted By: 4488
My best advice----quit producing.



That's exactly what needs to happen...but it won't anytime soon. Trappers are penny wise and pound foolish. Just look at the Canada Goose thread.

I sent a few pelts up for this year for the first time in 4 years. A fox I caught last year that looked surprisingly good for sitting in a freezer over a year, and some beaver and castor from a damage job this winter. None of it sold. I was hoping with the rising cost of oil things would start to move. Apparently not. When the economy crashed in 08 it fur for about a year and then popped back quickly. This is much more severe. Started with Crimea and then the dropping price of oil.

The first 2 years I cut back on trapping and sold hold my pelts having had them professionally tanned. Decent return but that market seems to have been exhausted. So I will just stick to ADC jobs until the fur market is back solid, if ever. I will trap coyotes on my place but that will be it.

Just as alarming is the way trappers and the fur industry have seemingly abandoned the North American market. Fur adds value to fashion and it would be embraced my many. But without a marketing foundation it won't move itself. Oh well.
....quit producing will not solve the problem. it will not create any new markets, it will only result in over population of animals and large die offs with loss of habitat, if the fur market is going to survive, you will need china, Russia and big name endorsements from north america. niki signed labron james to a lifetime 1 billion dollar contract....and now they cant make enough shoes fast enough to keep up with demand at 200 to 400 dollars a pair....multi millions coming in on monthly basis. popularity sales will go far beyond what C and T could even dream of. CG needs to redirect its advertising IMO....but its there company!!! sometimes I wonder what there real agenda is?


Edited by wallfur (07/09/18 06:19 PM)

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#6275878 - 07/09/18 08:36 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Riverotter2 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/28/07
Posts: 2207
Loc: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Some one buying (well Buying might not be the right word) southern coons. Just sold 646 more for a big 3.17 avg. Glad to I been wanting to buy a new four wheel drive with my coon hide money.

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#6275938 - 07/09/18 09:42 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: bblwi]
JeremyEickhoff Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/18/14
Posts: 1650
Loc: Melrose,Minnesota
Originally Posted By: bblwi
Wow I had 1 xsm rat that sold for .60. My 54 2xl-3xl-1* rats were all bought back. It seems that there is not a real market for the bigger better grade rats at this time.

Bryce


Sorry to hear that bblwi. I had a bunch that were 3x I* that sold in the first lot after the selects again. I do have 2 xsm rats that weren't in your lot that havent sold. Should have just tossed them in the crockpot but I let a newbie skin them.

$4 average on rats here and I will try to put up several thousand more this year!

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#6275971 - 07/09/18 10:18 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wallfur]
4488 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 767
Loc: Indiana
What are you drinking?

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#6275981 - 07/09/18 10:37 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
apparently not the same thing you are.

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#6276030 - 07/09/18 11:49 PM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
wannabe1 Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/19/14
Posts: 22
Loc: Yukon/ BC Canada
any word on marten/sable prices?

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#6276041 - 07/10/18 12:36 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
Boco Offline
trapper

Registered: 08/08/11
Posts: 16322
Loc: james bay frontierOnt.
All the reports are on the CNTA forum.

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#6276152 - 07/10/18 07:14 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wannabe1]
ebsurveyor Offline
trapper

Registered: 09/10/11
Posts: 1180
Loc: sometimes PA sometimes ME
Originally Posted By: wannabe1
any word on marten/sable prices?


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#6276174 - 07/10/18 07:59 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wallfur]
handitrapper Online   content
trapper

Registered: 08/09/10
Posts: 2120
Loc: WI
Originally Posted By: wallfur
apparently not the same thing you are.


Why donít you let the man have his opinions? Whether you agree or not.

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#6276175 - 07/10/18 08:00 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: Riverotter2]
ShaneT Offline
trapper

Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 4505
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Riverotter2
Some one buying (well Buying might not be the right word) southern coons. Just sold 646 more for a big 3.17 avg. Glad to I been wanting to buy a new four wheel drive with my coon hide money.


I guess the bright side is they are moving???

Were these all sizes and colors?
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#6276215 - 07/10/18 08:59 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: handitrapper]
wallfur Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/27/10
Posts: 520
Loc: idaho
Originally Posted By: handitrapper
Originally Posted By: wallfur
apparently not the same thing you are.


Why donít you let the man have his opinions? Whether you agree or not.
....ok fair enough...i am done posting carry on.

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#6276238 - 07/10/18 09:42 AM Re: NAFA wild fur auction [Re: wissmiss]
dparsons Offline
trapper

Registered: 03/04/14
Posts: 23
Loc: Keokee, Virginia
I sold to the NAFA for three years bobcats and coyotes the best cat was 70.00 and the best coyote was 12.00. Last year sent to FHA cats got 100.00 average the best 180.00 coyotes average 52.00.

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