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Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes #6285496
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While I’m sure many of you here are probably thinking not another recipe question, I assure you that’s not the case.
I have a couple gallons of beaver meat that I want to make into a bait that is rather mellow and almost sweet smelling. I’ve purchase some of Paul’s bait solution to use on it after tainting. As I understand it from reading the forums and one of Carmen’s books the process of tainting should get me started in that direction. What I’m most curious about is could you add something sweet to the mix like maple syrup to build that into the bait as well.
My goal with this is a bait that encourages a “come over here and smell, hmmm that smells like something to dig up” response rather than a real strong pungent smell that may not be tasty but may get their attention.
I’m probably not expressing this that well but I know what I’m looking for but since I’ve never done this before I’m a little bit at a loss.
Any help in finding my way would be appreciated.
Rick

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6285534
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Out in west NE one year trapping coyotes I found purple coon scat every where. Wasn't catching coons just coyotes. Had some of that purple coon scat plop out of a coyotes but while skinning. Prickly pear was having a banner year and those purple fruits were everywhere. This was in late Oct.

I never have messed with them as a bait or bait additive. Mostly because they are not common here. If you can gather a bunch, and refrain from making candy jelly or eating all of them, I think some experimentation may pan out.

honey is a good sweetener in coyote bait


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: danny clifton] #6285539
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Thank you Danny. You were one of the people I hoped would respond. I follow your posts a lot because you seem to know your stuff.
I may have to look into that. Raspberry and other berries crossed my mind as well.
Rick

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6285586
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If I was wanting to add something sweet I would add honey instead of maple syrup. I believe most baits can be enhanced with honey. Maple syrup is for waffles and pancakes, too expensive for coyote bait.


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6285759
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Black strap molasses or powder molasses will add taste flavor and sweetness to any bait in the right amounts. Canines are exposed to it as well in the field and pastures as many ranchers use it as a supplement in feed and it is contained in the mineral tubs placed in pastures and field lots.


Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: Bob Jameson] #6285827
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Thanks for the replies gentlemen. Bob, I hadn’t thought of of the molasses but definitely think that might be the ticket.
Thanks
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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6285868
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Its mulberries around here. When they are falling off trees the coyotes scat is full of the seeds. Every tree has coyote sign under it.

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6285913
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Persimmon when ripe is a coyote favorite. I think everything likes ripe persimmons.

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6286292
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Odor and flavor is very good with the molasses. I have used it for years in formulations to add taste palatability to some aged products. You do need to find the balance of its use as sugars can and will cause fermentation in some things so don't get carried away with its use. smile

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6286314
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If you decide to use molasses, buy it from a feed store, not the grocery store, it's much cheaper.


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6286623
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They like raspberries that's for sure

This was last week or the week before



Also consider mulberries, they are very sweet


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: Bob Jameson] #6286651
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Raspberries and mulberries are a staple in the diets of many coyotes in my area and I did consider them as well. But I think I’m going to go with the molasses because it is easier to work into the formula as I go forward today. I am curious though everyone’s thoughts on when to add it, before tainting, after tainting, while I add the bait solution, or when it’s bottled in smaller batches. I’m planning on putting this bait up in jars that hold about a pint. If I get positive responses I’d like to try the berries next year to see how that works as well.
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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6286730
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ive had moderate success adding fruit jellies into a rank bait, it tones down the sharp smell into a sweet sharp smell. I add it after both products have been completely preserved. Nice use for mulberrys! Cant speak for the raspberrys that would go on toast and in my belly!!


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6287531
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Here its wild cherries, scat is full of the seeds. Danny's spot on. Iv'e used honey as an add for years. They love the taste added to fresh meat.. Caro syrip works well too.


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6292174
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persimmon oil or honey


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6292342
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I got a test bait from a friend and he uses some apple butter as the base. Not sure if it taste sweet hut it sure smells it


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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: Bob Jameson] #6292520
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Well the progress thus far is this. I tainted the meat for 9 days and now have a nice gravy like consistency with some lumps in it. When I pulled it yesterday to add sodium benzoate and my Dobbins bait solution it was a bit thinner than I would like but we will see in 2 weeks what the consistency is. At that time I’m going to split the batch and and about 1/2 cup of karo syrup to one batch and 1/2 cup molasses to the other batch. Based on the consistency at that time, I’m going to add some corn starch filler to thicken it and then start testing it in the sand pit to see what kind of reaction I get from the coyotes.
I gotta tell you guys that are “regular make a living from bait making people”. That is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever done and you don’t have to worry about losing any of MY business. crazy
Rick

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Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6292554
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Tainted meat, skunk, mink glands, dont phase me a bit but ten minutes into cleaning and grinding coyote glands I start having symptoms of nausea.

Re: Trying to develop a sweet tasting bait for coyotes [Re: RickA] #6295411
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I wouldn't use the corn starch. I know we use it to thicken gravy but were cooking it, and only use it in place of flour because of the lumps, In Lure maybe it'd be Ok, but it has a nasty taste if used heavily. There's lots of other things around the house if your making "home concoctions". I'd be more apt to use a cream cheese as a thickener, or crushed up gram crackers or instant potatoes to thicken a bait.

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