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|  Advice on Buying Long Spring Traps
 #6288218 07/27/18 03:17 PM
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Just what the title says, not sure what to look for in new long springs, I'm aware of Bridger and Sleepy creek.  Not sure what to go with or if there are other brands that are better.  Looking for minimal modification. Any advice would be appreciated. 
Last edited by Cysquatch; 07/27/18 04:02 PM. Reason: clarified my question
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|  Re: Advice on Long Spring Traps
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Out of currently in production longspring traps I have only used the Bridger #4 enough to form a solid opinion. The Bridger #4 is one heck of a good trap. So good that another 3 dozen are on my shopping list. Also so good that I wish that Bridger would produce scaled down versions in #2 and #3 sizes. I would buy a pile. 
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 #6288856 07/28/18 10:44 AM
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Like others have said, my Sleepy Creeks have performed very well. But I've heard very good things about the the Bridger #4 and hope to test them out in the near future.
 Actually, the long spring I really what to give a whirl is Sleepy Creek's 4 1/2. I'm guessing that breaking those beasts over my knee like my 3s wouldn't work too well.
 
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 "...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound."
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|  Re: Advice on Long Spring Traps
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 #6289453 07/29/18 08:54 AM
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Im looking to add a few traps to my collection, I do all land trapping, mostly coyote and raccoon. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Advice on Long Spring Traps
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 #6289517 07/29/18 09:54 AM
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eastwood, Sleepy Creek recommends using their setter to initially break-in the springs over the base, but after initial break-in you really don't need them for the 3s. I've been setting their 3s just fine by hand without the setter. Because I use their setter for 330s, it wasn't an additional expense for me.
 I don't remember exactly what the issue was, but some people had problems setting them right out of the box without breaking them in first. I'm sure someone will chime in and provide the details.
 
 "...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound."
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eastwood, Sleepy Creek recommends using their setter to initially break-in the springs over the base, but after initial break-in you really don't need them for the 3s. I've been setting their 3s just fine by hand without the setter. Because I use their setter for 330s, it wasn't an additional expense for me.
 I don't remember exactly what the issue was, but some people had problems setting them right out of the box without breaking them in first. I'm sure someone will chime in and provide the details.
Maybe I'm just weak, but I can't hand set any of theirs above a 2. |  |  |  
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 #6289595 07/29/18 11:55 AM
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You're not weak. It's all technique - leverage. If I can set them you can. Here are a couple of good videos showing the technique. starts at 2:05 https://youtu.be/FOgRXBF5q6U starts at 1:45 https://youtu.be/ZHboJifkrTc 
 "...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound."
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 #6289616 07/29/18 12:43 PM
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I use the #4 Bridgers on land and in the water. Coyote, cats, otter, and front feet on beaver. Plus they aren't center swiveled so it doesn't feel like a ball peen to the leg when you are setting them. I have played with some Sleepy Creeks as well as other center swiveled longsprings and I am not a fan of the center swivel on longsprings. Makes my setting technique very painful. 
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 #6289736 07/29/18 04:00 PM
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Okay, so something's not right with the traps obviously. If I remember correctly, some people were having problems with the base plates deforming slightly when trying to set the 3s and 4s normally - breaking over the knee/thigh. Once the base plate had deformed, the only way to set them was with their setters.
 SCM came out with a "solution" that recommended breaking them in with their setters several times before attempting to use the normal setting technique, or just use the setters all the time. I did the former and haven't had any problems setting my 3s since. There was a thread on all of this several years ago but I can't find it.
 
 Anyway, sorry I wasn't much help.
 
 "...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound."
 Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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|  Re: Advice on Long Spring Traps
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 #6290225 07/30/18 09:47 AM
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Okay, so something's not right with the traps obviously. If I remember correctly, some people were having problems with the base plates deforming slightly when trying to set the 3s and 4s normally - breaking over the knee/thigh. Once the base plate had deformed, the only way to set them was with their setters.
 SCM came out with a "solution" that recommended breaking them in with their setters several times before attempting to use the normal setting technique, or just use the setters all the time. I did the former and haven't had any problems setting my 3s since. There was a thread on all of this several years ago but I can't find it.
 
 Anyway, sorry I wasn't much help.
Tried it again last night with some old 4's, and it worked fine. Guess my new ones are still too new. |  |  |  
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 #6295139 08/05/18 05:32 PM
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I'd get Duke, Victor, or Bridger.  If they don't have strong springs buy some auxiliary springs for it.  
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