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Article on truck driver shortage #6290115
07/30/18 06:01 AM
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I thought I was the only one who got off OTR because I refuse to let a machine tell me when and how much work I can do. Article is spot on with wages. I made 18 cents a mile a mile in 1981 as a rookie. drivers starting today make about twice that. In 1981 you could buy a top of the line gas powered 4wd pickup for 7-8 grand. you can barely find one that's usable for 14 grand today and it wont get you close to a new one.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trucking-shortage-eld-mandate-cdl-truck-driver-salary-2018-6


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290117
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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290184
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I have a friend that owns a couple hundred trucks, he says most his guys are in the 80Gs range plus good benefits. I would want more than that to be gone from home all the time but doesn't seem to bad.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290186
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The restrictions to truck drivers is ridiculous!

Truck driving school is a bout $4000.

Too much regulation.


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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290197
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I've got a friend that drove OTR for over 20 years. He said he got out because it wasn't "fun" anymore... They're regulating it to death.

Mike


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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290198
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Rat, what's the name of his company?


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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290200
07/30/18 09:05 AM
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Lots of foreign drivers on the road today seems like a desired job for them, stop a truck and most of the time it's a guy from Europe or Africa often Canada has Sikhs driving their trucks.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: Mike in A-town] #6290202
07/30/18 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
I've got a friend that drove OTR for over 20 years. He said he got out because it wasn't "fun" anymore... They're regulating it to death.

Mike



Regulating and drivers get hit by stupid laws that go on their driving records. If a commercial vehicle is involved in any type of accident no matter fault it goes on drivers and companies record. And if a vehicle gets towed it raises the level of punishment.

Even if the truck driver had no fault in causing the accident. And this plays right into opening lawsuits against drivers and companies.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290208
07/30/18 09:19 AM
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They even dinged UPS for not taking a rest period after so many hours drove the hard workers nuts here, Schwan's drivers also it makes it tough when the depot is a hour and half away!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290219
07/30/18 09:39 AM
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I believe it is bigger trucking companies using government regulations to make it hard for smaller companies or Individual owner operators to compete. Crony Capitalism. . It should be rooted out and the politicans that engage in it should nbe ridiculed and set on fire.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290226
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Yep finn you are right


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Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290229
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Its not that bad. I run a small trucking company with 5 of our own trucks and 1 owner op. We are doing just fine on E-logs and the other Regs.
Yes we are regulated to death but its not that bad. My drivers take home over 60,000 a year, insurance, retirement, and vacation. They are home every weekend.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290252
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Unless it's a starting wage, I would not be taken away from my wife and sons 5 days a week for 60 grand a year. It might be ok for a few years if a guy is single, but you can't get the years of raising your kids back.

Have the guys who run the trucking companies earnings grown at the same rate as the driver's over the past couple decades?

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: Trapper Shrek] #6290253
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Originally Posted By: Trapper Shrek

Yes we are regulated to death but its not that bad.


That may be an example of an incongruent statement.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: FlyinFinn] #6290257
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: Trapper Shrek

Yes we are regulated to death but its not that bad.


That may be an example of an incongruent statement.

Is that like a oxy-moron? Kinda seems that way. I overheard a couple guys talking a while back about their trucking business and they were saying that they can't keep drivers because of that new E-log stuff and the fact that they put cameras in the trucks. I thought to myself, wth, it's driving truck not working at a secret plutonium factory lol. That's some serious big brother crap if ya ask me.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290269
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I see quite a few that should not be on the roads, I guess this driver shortage has lowered the skill requirement levels.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290295
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I gotta laugh when a guy with a successful trucking business that's doing well and has 5-6 employees that get paid a good salary and insurance and all the other benefits in todays job market is told he's doing it wrong! laugh


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290309
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Point out who told him he is doing it wrong Lawdog.

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: gryhkl] #6290318
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
Unless it's a starting wage, I would not be taken away from my wife and sons 5 days a week for 60 grand a year. It might be ok for a few years if a guy is single, but you can't get the years of raising your kids back.

Have the guys who run the trucking companies earnings grown at the same rate as the driver's over the past couple decades?



What's your name, and what do you do for a living?

Re: Article on truck driver shortage [Re: danny clifton] #6290325
07/30/18 12:13 PM
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Elon Musk is working to make professional driving go the way of the horse teamsters so it's a moot point anyway.

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