Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
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08/11/18 12:02 PM
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Good luck with that if she's into partying and clubbing. That seems to be where most of the problems with campus life begin. If she has good principals and some common sense she will probably be just fine. How the upcoming years play-out may be a reflection on how she was raised. However, I've seen good kids go bad, and bad kids go good so you just never really know. In the long-run young people who have been raised right and then veer off track during their college years almost always find their way back. That's another thing I would talk to her about. Kids are kids and they very well may want to experiment. I would mention to go with as many friends as possible and NEVER accept a open drink from anyone!! Also never resume drinking from one that has been out of your sight ev n if it has been left with friends Talk to her you might be surprised at what sh has already encountered There are lots of self defense tools out there the one both my kids left home with is called a monkey fist which is a steel ball with paracord wrapping around it a golf all as a core works good also and will not ping metal detectors and anything you connect with is going going to be damaged I know as a parent you want her to be safe but if she is not comfortable with it as soon as she is out of your sight she will drop it in a drawer and forget about it
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 12:51 PM
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Situational awareness is number one. Number two would be some sort of basic self defense class, along with the confidence and physical strength to use it when necessary. A black belt in karate wont do any good if you shrivel up when attacked or cant lift a gallon of milk without straining. Any weapon will be useless unless trained with, whether that's a gun, pepper spray, some sort of impact weapon, etc. Don't do stupid kid stuff. It's hard when your young, Ive been there. But the "kids will be kids" mentality that says kids will get drunk and party is only a stones throw from the "boys will be boys" mentality that makes young college boys treat young college girls like disposable objects. Don't do anything you'd regret telling your future spouse or children.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:27 PM
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Pepper spray, running shoes and a while. Spray attacker, run like the wind toward people and open well lit area while making as much noise with whistle as possible.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:29 PM
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I hate to say this but there are a lot of assaults, rapes beating go on in every collage that you will never know about. The collage may know about them but you never will. Yes, the numbers are small compared to the number of students. But they are still there. Lot of good advice. Self defense class with a friend, do not go out alone, let people know where you are going by phone, NOT face book etc. JMO
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:35 PM
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Just remind her of how cruel the world is. The teaching you've done from birth to this point is what matters. Trust in what values you've already taught her and she'll hopefully avoid the crowd that will get her in trouble.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:39 PM
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Go to tigerlady.com every lady should have a set of these.
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:48 PM
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Let her read "the gift of fear" by Gavin DeBecker.
Situation awareness. Keying in on what people say. Learn to say "no" and keep saying it till they get the point. And dont ever get the mind set of "it wont happen to me"
the just shall live by faith
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 01:50 PM
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We need to remember the media makes the world seem alot more dangerous than it truly is. I second lots of the advice already given, and would also recommend the book "the gift of fear" by gavin debecker... it's about fine tuning yout personal awareness and listening to your premonitions.
Throughout your entire life, you will never see the same sky twice.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 02:12 PM
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I have not had really any talks with her yet about safety. and I’m not really knowleble of what to watch for other than just stay away from any man. And usually she listens but like any kid thinks it can’t happen to her. You have had no talks with your daughter about safety? Wow. You have done her no favors. Enroll her in self defense classes where ever she is going to be for school. Better late than never.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 02:19 PM
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self defense is a last ditch effort. first conversations should be about minimizing risk and avoiding the need for self defense
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 02:44 PM
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As for open drinks and not watch.A friend of my her sister was in a bar and had the date rape drug in her drink.My friend and her mom took her sister to the ER is when they found out about the drug that was slip in her drink.Also like stated have her to not even drink the drink if watch by friends because you do not know if they will try to do something or play something on her. Also I say drop the pepper spray I have hear that some can handle the spray.Use Raid that spray 25ft.That will stop them for a time.I had read somewhere in the past about the 2.and raid works the best.Also beside being with someone else to anywhere,but make sure they can be trusted very well. Also stay away from frat houses and there parties. That is where too much gose on. Also watch out for sly talkers. Over all best to stay out of the bars all together.It is only for a few years and that is it.But it is all up to her in the end for what she dose . You can only do so much and say so much. She need to start to live her life and you can help only so much.So gose to college to not go to work right away and to only party.I know, I had talk with some about it. Those are the most problem ones.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 03:07 PM
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If your not trained before anything happens do you really think the brain will function at 100% when your life in on the line and you have no clue what to do? AIN'T going to happen!
The purpose of training is to increase though under stress because the basics are already in place. The #1 plan of a untrained person is to play "dead" and hope for the best outcome. AKA a perfect victim!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
[Re: Jacks]
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08/11/18 04:17 PM
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Learning to avoid risky situations/awareness as a primary means of defense is #1, #2,physical violence needs a lot of training. Especially for women who will likely be fighting a much stronger male. 10 hours of training on effective use of violence is better than none but not nearly enough.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
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08/11/18 10:22 PM
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Take shooting and teach her tactical shooting. They make purses that no one will ever know the gun is there. All my girls are armed. They have locking blades knives as well.
Praise the Lord and Pass the ammunition.
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Re: Keeping daughter safe from world
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08/12/18 12:48 AM
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Go to tigerlady.com every lady should have a set of these. That looks great Pawnee! I’m sending that link to the women in my family, and will probably get a pair for my wife to run with. I like that it’s completely intrinsic, simple and instinctive. Really no training or practice required. That being said, I believe training, practice and awareness are the keys to safe living. The title of this thread is “Keeping daughter safe from the world.” Personally I believe that’s an unrealistic plan. My goal as a parent is to teach and equip my daughter to function safely and successfully IN the world, because I can’t protect her from it forever. Hopefully your daughter is already practiced in shooting and has at least lived a physical enough life to have a good foundation to build from. But I agree that at this point a small weapon and some classes are probably your best bet.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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