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Hancock vs Koro #6308417
08/23/18 04:02 AM
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Any advantages from Hancock vs Koro braver live traps. Purchasing couple new traps anda doing my research

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6308443
08/23/18 07:40 AM
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North East Illinois
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Haven't use either the Hancock or Koro but I have used the Comstock beaver traps and have found them to be extremely effective. I have picked up a lot of nuisance work in the suburbs since I was one of the few that could offer a non fatal trapping alternative.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6308539
08/23/18 12:22 PM
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Are Hancock traps still being made? I haven't seen them advertised for several years. Between the Hancock and the Bailey beaver trap, I prefer the Hancock traps. The Hancock traps that I have are over 30 years old. If you have a source for Hancock traps, would you please post it? I have also had good luck with Comstock beaver traps.



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Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6308813
08/23/18 06:32 PM
08/23/18 06:32 PM
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Hancocks if you can still find them have two latches to secure the trap closed
Koro only have one

This is a big deal if you've ever seen a beaver work one of those traps

You can order replacement locks and Add them to the koro


Living life like a dog with a stick


Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6321192
09/10/18 01:08 AM
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I saw the Hancock advertised but canít remember where? I was surprised they were still made. I have both brands Hancock and Koro. Have caught a lot of beaver in both brands. I was concerned about the one latch at first too but never had one open up. WCS has the Koro on there sight. Always nice people to deal with.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6322377
09/11/18 10:21 AM
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I think Tomahawk has the Hancock trap I like the hancock over the bailey.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6322592
09/11/18 04:21 PM
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It was my understanding that Koro bought out Hancock traps. Have had issues with Koro's "hanging up" and not completely closing because the trigger binds up on the frame of that trap, preventing the trap from closing. Missed a beaver about two weeks ago with this issue. Only solution is to reset and hope the beaver comes back.

Called the guy from Koro several years ago, after explaining the problems that my company has had, my employees and I, have had, he states, wow, never heard of that happening.

At the time he stated he would send me some new triggers, that was again several years ago. Still waiting for them. I have about 10 Hancocks and Koro's combined total traps.

Have since moved on to Comstocks which are pretty good traps, for me anyway.

As the post above states Tomahawk has the Hancock. But after checking that out it states this on their website:

"KORO Live Beaver Trap: This clam shell style Live Beaver Trap is the same design as the Hancock trap which has been available since 1930. Constructed of a heavy duty aluminum frame and chain link mesh, this trap is built to last a lifetime. It weighs 25 pounds and folds to 6". This trap is..."

Yet there is a picture of the Hancock, that description clearly states Koro. I would be inclined to think Tomahawk has an old picture of a Hancock "stock photo" for their Koro's that they sell. But I could be wrong.

Would love to find some old Hancocks, they sure where reliable.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6322706
09/11/18 06:37 PM
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I do not mean to take this in a new direction, but as my Uncle utilized live beaver traps, one of which I have, and that trap almost took his nose off on a misfire in the 1960's, I have always considered the easier to transport, easier to set, larger version of raccoon live traps for beaver.
In my part of the world, the beaver have land runs, usually cropping corn like hogs, so that is the simple solution and more affordable. I know this will not fit every situation, but the traditional live beaver traps do not fit all situations either.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6322946
09/11/18 11:47 PM
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Advanced trap.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6323010
09/12/18 12:46 AM
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Kirk DeKalb makes a dandy beaver trap also under the brand name advanced traps. Much safer to use then the Hancock or Koro.

I knew a local game warden years back that was knocked unconscious from a Hancock trap. It was fortunate for him that he had someone with him when it occurred or he may have drowned.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6329420
09/20/18 08:14 PM
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I know the question was about Koro and Hancock but I see that it expanded. Tomahawk carries Koro and Bailey in the clamshell traps. I have used the Comstock beaver traps to take 1,014 beaver in the past eight years, all ADC, and though I do use both Bailey and Hancock when necessary, I have used them to catch perhaps 20 beaver with them together in "fill in situations" during that same eight years. I think my Hancock is bent after a stick, I missed in the muck, got caught in the corner, allowing the beaver to escape. I have had similar sized sticks and larger get caught in the doors of Comstock traps, but the traps have a gap that allowed the doors to close and lock with the stick and beaver both remaining caught. Others have experienced the same. I do like both the Hancock and Bailey but they are a lot more dangerous. Got my nose split when in a hurry, but just once.

99.9% of what I do is in water as I don't have trails like star flakes mentioned, but if I did I wouldn't hesitate to set trails too. I wish I had the opportunity to set a land set now and then like others have done successfully with swim through cage traps set right side up or sideways.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6329472
09/20/18 09:54 PM
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Before I made my own traps I owned 12 Koro and two Hancock beaver traps. I had better luck with my Koro,s and sold my Handcocks. I wore out the koro's over a 12 year period. I found them to be a very useful tool. I know I caught at least 1000 beaver in them, maybe over 2000.

They were useful the most for me in places where there were no runs and steep banks where foot holds and conibears were not allowed. They also were used in box culverts with permission by using a concrete nail gun securing a plywood plate to the interior wall of a box culvert and hanging with a cable. The deep and wide culverts would hide them under the road.

I never felt they were dangerous as long as they were used properly. Same goes for a conibear.

I would recommend the Koro for an ADC trapper, to have at least one.

The way the trap works makes it very important on the large beaver to place the lure or bait allowing it to correspond best to the best water level to make the catch. The trap roles the beaver up into the trap. If the beaver is over 60lbs and the trap fires when the beaver is somewhat out from the trap, the door may make him role out of the trap when it fires or not allow a fast closing, missing the catch.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6330280
09/22/18 01:35 AM
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Handcock traps are still owned by Blair Wade in Custer South Dakota. The SD fish and game guys took Trapper collage same time as I did. They have been getting them.
Both Koro and Handcock are good traps. Been using them for 22 years full time. Comstocks also. I have Advance traps as well.
Blair Wade was very sick a few years back and stopped making traps for a while.
Koro has a problem with hang fire do to the steel dog binding on the frame. I have an easy fix for this. I removed the frame piece that holds the dog and replaced it with an eye bolt. Much bigger opening. Not one hang fire in 5 years. I'm out of town until 9/23. I'll post a photo after that. There are a few people who know and have used my fix. Maybe one of them can post a photo before I get back.
Don LaFountain

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Trapper Don] #6332454
09/25/18 02:10 AM
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Thanks Don, I would look forward to seeing that picture. I also have both traps.

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6335100
09/28/18 10:24 AM
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I can't figure out how to post photos. Email me at don.iwc2011@gmail.com
I'll send photo of trap fix. Or someone can help me upload it. I'll try from my computer. Can't from my phone

Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6358561
10/28/18 01:51 AM
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Thanks Don!

"Here you go. I remove the bar that holds the dog. Replace it with eye bolt. You can have the dog come from bottom also. That way the dog fits the notch better.
You can use 1/4inch bolt to replace rivets too.
This is to easy to fix the hang fire.
Hope it helps."
-Don




Last edited by wildflights; 10/28/18 01:55 AM.
Re: Hancock vs Koro [Re: Idahotrapguy] #6358672
10/28/18 03:34 AM
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These modifications above are really nice. Might have to spend some time in the warehouse to fix all my traps. The sad part is the company should be doing this to fix the problem, particularly considering the price. I shouldn't have to spend hours fixing the traps they make.

Very nicely done sir! Kudos!

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