Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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08/29/18 06:30 PM
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Well I’m just a simple ole hillbilly but I’m out of NAFA looks like. I see this as a back door effort to do away with us in too many words that I feel like typing up on a Ipad. To each his own. I’m sure some of you have no problem with it or even welcome it. If they do this I’ll sell or not sale what I catch somewhere else from now on. Any scuttlebutt that FHA is considering this? There was a very good opinion piece in the last NTA magazine I agreed with on this.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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08/29/18 06:32 PM
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FHA has not made a statement but it is going industry wide,apparently.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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Most of you have certified fur already, you just don't know it. What does it say where you sign your name on your trapping license? As far as a back door effort to do away with us, I am sure that is what every one making money off us wants to do. It is already happening.
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Re: Info on certified fur
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08/29/18 07:11 PM
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Most of you have certified fur already, you just don't know it. What does it say where you sign your name on your trapping license? Exactly why the other stuff is bs. It's already there.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: wallfur]
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traceability and certification are two different things. Would you please elaborate on this statement. What is the difference? Thanks.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: MJM]
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Most of you have certified fur already, you just don't know it. What does it say where you sign your name on your trapping license? As far as a back door effort to do away with us, I am sure that is what every one making money off us wants to do. It is already happening. .......most coyote are hunted not trapped anyway....most hunters don't even have a trapping lic and put up big numbers.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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certification will dictate what traps and methods that you can or cannot be used, only after you comply with that they will certify that pelt as being humane harvested...... they consider what is humane not you, or the laws already in place that insures that already happening .......probably by someone that's never even set a trap!
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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99% of every consumer product you purchase today has a traceability program in place. Its rare today to find one that doesn't. Most them are in place in case something goes wrong the problem can be sorted out more efficiently. Others like fur are for competitive advantage, and brand loyalty. Its a marketing tool: They can look a customer in the eye, and say they did their due diligence, they went and made sure things were done by the rules established by various game & fish agencies, instead of taking someone's word for it. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less. They've thrown their lot in with yours, there's no way they want to slow you down, or restrict your efforts. That would hurt them as much you. It helps them sell fur, and if their selling fur, your selling fur. Just simple common sense.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: wallfur]
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certification will dictate what traps and methods that can or cannot be used before they will certify that pelt. only after you comply with what they is consider humane.......probably by someone that's never even set a trap! None of you will like what I'm going to say. This is not government dictating what we are or, what we are not going to do,but it is free companies in a free country telling us trappers what they expect from us.I don't like it any more than you do.But ,it is what it is,and if you want to sell ,or be auctioned by them,than you better get with the program.Or don't sell to them,or through them. Very simple. Like I said previous,I don't like it any more than any of you.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: wallfur]
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traceability and certification are two different things. The former is meaningless without the latter. Don't forget where all of this began - The Humane Society bringing suit against 11 retailers in 2011 for selling fake fur garments made from Chinese "raccoon dog" fur, and the European Union's attempt to globally regulate wild-fur production through sanctions that have now reached our borders as Certification and Traceability via NAFA and our brethren to the North. I'd rather not go through this song and dance once again - it's getting old - but if Boco wants serenade us with his NAFA-sponsored propaganda, I'll play.
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: wallfur]
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08/29/18 07:43 PM
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certification will dictate what traps and methods that you can or cannot be used, only after you comply with that they will certify that pelt as being humane harvested...... they consider what is humane not you, or the laws already in place that insures that already happening .......probably by someone that's never even set a trap! wallfur, Where did you come up with that? Have you ever spoke to Canada Goose? I have a couple time and the last was last weekend. I think someone is off in their description from what I am told by Canada Goose.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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08/29/18 07:49 PM
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wallfur You don't like fur selling? I keep trying to figure out what restrictions you are speaking of. Do you have a list of them? Does ID allow outsiders to set hunting and trapping regulations? I will sign saying I followed my state regs.
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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well then mjm why don't you enlighten us then on what you learned? everytime someone claims to talk to CG they seem to change there story. ......whats the latest line of bs?
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Re: Info on certified fur
[Re: etxwoods]
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They were invited to the ND Fur Takers summer convention and gave a talk. You have no clue what you are saying, since everything you know is at least second hand. Do you have a problem saying your fur is from ID and taken legally? That is all they want.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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