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Old Long Spring Users
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09/17/18 09:04 PM
09/17/18 09:04 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
MO
cfowler
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Wondering how many out there use the older long springs on their lines. Stuff like old cast jaw traps, square riveted bases, etc. Using traps like that just gives me a sense of nostalgia I suppose. Many of those older long springs are still strong traps, and in many cases, a style of trap no longer made. An added bonus is, fewer trappers seem interested in using them, so they can be an inexpensive addition to a line.
My favorite older trap is the Victor 3N. I really like it with the PIT pan system installed on it, a crunch-proof added near the spring swivel, and I shorten the chain, unless cabling off to a clog or using a drag.
Recently, my attention has turned to the old Diamond #21's and #21 1/2's to use on the rat and mink line. I love the double jaw design of those little traps, and there's still plenty of users to be found at reasonable prices if you're looking.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6327578
09/17/18 09:17 PM
09/17/18 09:17 PM
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Wylee
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Wylee
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I too like the nostalgia. Just classic and cool. I have several 3s and 4s. Im not a trap expert..some have cast jaws some dont. Some have square rivets. I find them easier to set.
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6327707
09/17/18 11:51 PM
09/17/18 11:51 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
central arkansas
the Blak Spot
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central arkansas
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We use lots of 3n and older vic longs
the just shall live by faith
member FTA, ATA, EAFT 1776 - the year we told a tyrant we weren't to be under a dictator Caveat ater macula
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6327749
09/18/18 05:26 AM
09/18/18 05:26 AM
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jabNE
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jabNE
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I use a lot of #2 longs and some #4 longs. #2 longs have put a lot of different animals in the truck for us. Most of mine were ones I bought used in 1980s and still serving us today OK. Jim don't laugh...but #2 longs still take a lot of coyotes for us each season...
Last edited by jabNE; 09/20/18 05:57 AM.
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: Larry Baer]
#6328058
09/18/18 03:01 PM
09/18/18 03:01 PM
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cfowler
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I like them too and have a few old Blake and Lambs that are still super strong. I like #44 DLS I had a few B&L #44's, they were a little rough on me trying to set they were so stout. Same with the #3 Newhouse's. I'm also a big 1 1/2 long fan for rats and mink, although I'm still trying for the mink in one. I ran several B&L's last season. Curious what advantage might exist with moving the chain "pcr"? I've bought traps rigged like that, but wasn't sure of the reasoning behind it. Those older Victor #2 square jaw coils are an often over-looked trap that catches a lot of fur. Like using them at pocket sets on a drowner rig.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: pcr2]
#6328736
09/19/18 01:44 PM
09/19/18 01:44 PM
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chain is moved for a better hold on incidental coon. Ok. I guess I'm not seeing the advantage. Only caught a couple coons in 1.5 longs so far. Caught quite a few in #11 Sleepy Creeks, but they're center swiveled. I notice coons caught in the 3N's will have worked their foot over the side opposite the spring w/chain attachment. Just attributed that to the off-set. I'm sure there's some mechanical advantage idea behind moving the chain, I'm just not seeing it.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6328781
09/19/18 03:21 PM
09/19/18 03:21 PM
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Joined: May 2010
potter co. p.a.
pcr2
"Twerker"
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"Twerker"
Joined: May 2010
potter co. p.a.
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as the animal pulls away from the anchoring point,if the foot moves it goes toward the spring which is a way tighter grip than the old way where when they pull,it goes away from the spring and to the end of worst grip.
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: pcr2]
#6328834
09/19/18 05:20 PM
09/19/18 05:20 PM
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as the animal pulls away from the anchoring point,if the foot moves it goes toward the spring which is a way tighter grip than the old way where when they pull,it goes away from the spring and to the end of worst grip. Makes perfect sense now. Thanks!
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6328969
09/19/18 09:01 PM
09/19/18 09:01 PM
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Besides the Diamond 1's and 1.5's, I like the older cast jaw 1.5 longs. The square rivet base and knowing that trap isn't made any more, is like continuing a tradition in a way.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: cfowler]
#6329112
09/20/18 04:04 AM
09/20/18 04:04 AM
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Joined: Jul 2017
Ohio
Willy Firewood
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Ohio
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It is nice to see guys getting the old traps out for exercise. With only those old traps, just how did they manage to catch anything? Ha.
I have some old #3 double long springs that I want to get back in the field. I would like to use them for coyotes because of nostalgia and a change of pace.
I need to file the dog and the pan to make a crisp trigger. What else do you recommend to beef up these traps? What about bending up the jaw tips instead of bubble welding them? I am a lousy welder so I would prefer to modify them without welding. What is the best method to base plate them? Of course I will replace the chain and add swivels.
Back when I was a kid, I made some double long spring traps with #1 and #1-1/2 parts. They worked ok, but didn’t look correct because they had the different jaw radius.
I have a few old Newhouse #4 and some others with teeth hanging by the cabin door. They make a great doorbell, just rattle the chain and I hear and come scrambling to see who I caught. Of course they are not set. But it seems appropriate as a year round trapper to have traps hanging beside the cabin door
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Old Long Spring Users
[Re: pcr2]
#6329506
09/20/18 06:43 PM
09/20/18 06:43 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
MO
cfowler
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i will cough up for a couple dozen choice 3N's for my canine line before long. They're out there. I picked up about 2dz at our state rondy last weekend.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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