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Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question #6330850
09/22/18 08:57 PM
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Is there a difference between using an electric winch or an electric hoist for your skinning Machine?

The reason that I ask is because Harbor Freight has a 2,500 lb winch on sale for $50 where as their 440 lb hoist is $99. Of course the weight limit isn’t an issue but the price certainly is a big difference.


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330873
09/22/18 09:20 PM
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One is 12V and the other is 110V. How do you want to power it?


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: QuietButDeadly] #6330874
09/22/18 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: QuietButDeadly
One is 12V and the other is 110V. How do you want to power it?


Honestly, I don’t know electric. Of course I’d want to plug it into an outlet on the wall. So I’m guessing that winches don’t operate as such. I didn’t even consider that issue when thinking about things.


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330930
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I use a 12 volt 4 wheeler winch its plenty strong! it will destroy a hide as clean as a 110volt one will


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330944
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Tony how long does the battery last using the 12v system ?

Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330966
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My thoughts are that the cost of the $50 winch plus the battery will be more than the $99 hoist plugged into the wall.

Is there any benefit to the winch/battery combo over the hoist?


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330972
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To be honest im not completely sure ive gone a full week on a full battery that's around 10 yotes a few coons and what ever else get a tour lol and im just using a cheap 12 volt lawn mower battery! Now I just leave a 2 amp trickle charger the kind for marine use on it during season low battery means high amps ,short motor life.


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330974
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yes big 1 if I had to go buy new tomorrow id get a 110 unit


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6330986
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Thanks Tony


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331026
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I use that same winch you're looking at. Don't need a battery, just use a battery charger. When time to skin, just hit switch. I've used that $49 winch for 3 years now with no problems.

Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331100
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I made one with the #880 lb / 120 volt winch works great. I wouldn’t want the 12 volt and have to mess with the battery and charger. Also remember the winch rating on those electric winches is when using a “2 part” line” not single. That’s why I went wtih the #880. That’s 440 single line pull.

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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331152
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Hoist is faster than the winch from what I've seen


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331232
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I have the 440 from Harbor Freight and it has plenty of power to pull cold coyotes or otter. I run it double cable and it is plenty fast enough for me. And 25% off coupons for a single item from HF are not hard to come by and I do not want the hassle of another piece of equipment to do the 12V.

Now if I was looking to make a portable, hitch mount for road trips, the 12V would be the ticket.


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331241
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QBD, those are some good points, thank you


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331310
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Those Harbor Freight hoists sold for around $60.00 and cheaper before all of us started making power skinners. LOL

Does anyone know If you can buy them from the factory Or the wholesaler?
With my set up I don't need the motor bracket or the cable or spool. I would think with out those bells and whistles they would be pretty cheap.


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331495
09/23/18 05:31 PM
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Get the hoist and use this coupon...



The 440lb. is what I use on all my skinning machines. They are plenty and fairly fast too...



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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331518
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ADC, I wish that I lived closer, I’d love to buy one of your setups


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331629
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Originally Posted By: TheBig1
ADC, I wish that I lived closer, I’d love to buy one of your setups


I'd love for you too as well. lol At least you know where to save a little money on a hoist. wink

Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331748
09/23/18 11:14 PM
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I use the same hoist. It works great.
I made my machine too short and need to reset the clamps or cable 3 times to get a full pull on a yote.

Do yourself a favor and make sure that you get at least 10ft of the ground. It will save a ton of time


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Re: Hoist vs. Winch: A Skinning Machine Question [Re: TheBig1] #6331761
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7' max height with the right set up and no need to move the clamps or the slip noose.


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