Has anyone put lams on jump traps to try and improve their canine viability? I know, there are better traps, spend the money and effort on said better traps, yada yada. I get a kick out of jumps and would like to try and improve a few of mine, just for the fun of it. I've never seen it done or heard of anyone doing it to them though.

reason is its hard to get a consistent 3-4lb pan tension with out adding pit pans. Miles triggers help but not the absolute best method. I've got a nice pile of those old #3 and 4 jumps for beavers! imho I think they might cut it as a cat trap.

I've seen pictures of it being done,I don't think it was on here.Come to think of it I think it was a Charles Dobbins aricle in the TRAPPER magazine.

I believe its possible some of those old jumps are still super strong traps. I have a few 3s that make me red in the face setting! lol and im not man enough to pack inside the jaws on them

I might give it a go. I'd love to get a coyote in one just to have done it. They're fun beaver traps and you can get them on the cheap most of the time.

Asa grew up using #3 Jumps for cats and fox, I'd PM him and ask if it's worth it.

And what's wrong with the traps the way they are. The only reason I would laminate a trap Is If I was live market trapping or It was mandated by law.
A squared off regular jaw face Is going to hold better then any laminated jaw.

That's trap porn right there.

I'm with the Beav. If you laminate you have doubled the the mass of the jaw which means you now have half enough spring.
Lamination on coil springs requires doubling the spring power by 4 coiling, but the design of the underspring traps leaves no way to increase the spring strength.
Any trap will hold better without laminations. Lamination is meant to reduce the pressure on the foot, decreased pressure means less hold. They are designed to make the criter feel better til it is dispatched. Part of the effort to please the AR people.

decreased pressure also means less fighting due to comfort. less fighting means less pressure needed to hold! I"ve never looked at laminations as a waste of time or effort. IF im not mistaken I believe 4 coiling was designed to help trap close not hold

I'm not sure if laminating jumps hurt or help,because its a rather unique design.But I personally have laminated coil springs without 4-coiling them.I was told laminating my No.4 longsprings would render them way too slow and wouldn't maintain a decent hold.I laminated them,base plated and put a 1/4"offset in them and love the way they treat coyotes.With the jumps I hear there's a man by the name of Ed(I believe he makes the PIT pans,could be wrong)who loves the jumps for predators and owns over 300.He'd probably be a wealth of information on this.Interesting thread here,by the way.

No matter If you laminate or not the circulation will be cut off within several minutes and that foot will have lost all feeling.
In my opinion an animal fights a trap because it's being detained not because It's foot Is feeling pain.

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... however if you just like tinkering with your traps, go for it...

Even though the BMPs and other studies show they do less damage to the animal than a standard jaw trap

From my exspirience laminating doesn't cut off circulation ive had catchs in way below zero temps and didn't have a froze foot! those weren't off set traps either! Usually lose of circulation equals a swollen foot. most times I really have to look hard to find the foot I caught. The slowest laminated trap is still fast enough to catch the fastest yote foot there is! Those look awesome wolfy

I'm not buying the circulation thing Tony. You can wind a rubber band around your finger and In seconds your losing circulation to that finger. That foot may not swell up but It's going to lose circulation no matter what foot hold trap your using.
Lamination may cushion the initial blow from the trap firing and the jaws closing but then It's a mote point. Well anyway that my opinion on the subject.

I can respect that

Just think Of It this way. If we would all have agreed with the initial post we wouldn't be where we are know. LOL

I must agree beav someone needs to go against the grain to get out all the ups and downs!