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Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6341646
10/06/18 12:34 PM
10/06/18 12:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Alabama
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KB64 Offline OP
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Joined: Jan 2018
Alabama
Proud of this big male. Put in 3 new sets Thursday evening and connected with him this morning. Less than 48 hours since setting.

Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6342464
10/07/18 01:05 PM
10/07/18 01:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
alabama
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Joined: Feb 2015
alabama
Nice job. Im in Coffeville and caught 3 last nite. Seamed like they moved well. The weather coming in. Tuesday nite you should really. Catch some more cpyotes.

Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6342974
10/08/18 06:16 AM
10/08/18 06:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Nebraska
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Nebraska
I've found that there's locations I see a coyote track and think well that would be a good place to put a set. Was that coyote making a random pass through the area? Did something deviate him from his usual path of travel long enough to make that one set of tracks? In the past those sets sat without much action.

I don't have all season to wait it out, and wait for them to come around again. I typically run 10 days max at a time. Since that time I have started to look for different aged tracks as Gary pointed out, and if I can find a place where I have coyote tracks coming/going I set heavy. Those are the type of locations that you'll catch 3-4 coyotes in a week out of one trap...If I had infinite traps I'd like be able to catch them all in the first night or two. I do still break down and set heavy travel areas whether there's sign or not. There's no longer what some would call "aging of sets." I'm actually disgruntled if I don't have first night action.

When I hear of guys needing to let sets "air out," for a couple days when they're on location the first thing that comes to mind is they are likely over luring. I've really downgraded the amount if any lure I use at sets and the catch rates speak for themselves. As good ol Travis Chilson told me a few years back when I burned through four ounces of his lure rather quickly and was looking to get more..."just a dab will do ya." For some reason that's always stuck in my head since, and it's paid for that extra bottle of lure time and time again.

Last edited by WadeRyan; 10/08/18 06:17 AM.

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Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6343302
10/08/18 02:32 PM
10/08/18 02:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Southern Michigan
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Southern Michigan
Travis is spot on, with good lure a smear the size of a pea is plenty even after a good rain. I've had pulled sets worked hard after being pulled 3 months later. I apply just enough to get a reaction, same with urine.

Here in the midwest agg land on some locations it takes awile, its all predigated by populationn density and how hot the location is at the time your there. Just a track doesn't mean it's a hot location, really good locations don't need to be verified by tracks.

Dang Wade, 4 ounces lasts me all season LOL wink

Last edited by trappergbus; 10/08/18 02:33 PM.

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Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6343554
10/08/18 09:05 PM
10/08/18 09:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
SD
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Joined: Mar 2010
SD
Population density can have a huge impact on “how long” it takes sets to connect.

Obviously, sets that will have 2, 3, 4, or more target critters go by every night are probably going to connect faster than sets that have one target animal every few days come by. All else equal.

Locations closer to key, core areas will likely see more activity faster.

When fur trapping, for my style of trapping, I expect to have 75% of the resident coyotes dead in 10-15 days. And that’s in a LOW population density.

Now control work, where prolonged suppression of the population is the goal, things can take a while. Had a set sit 77 days before connecting once. Never touched it after I made it.

Re: Age of sets [Re: KB64] #6343850
10/09/18 09:27 AM
10/09/18 09:27 AM
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99.99 percent of people harvesting fur want to know "Where to set a trap or snare" or "where to set up a stand to shoot". They want a picture of the catch, some monetary reward and satisfaction that they were good enough to out-think and harvest their quarry. Being able to evaluate HABITAT (NOT JUST COVER - a component of HABITAT) will help anyone wanting to increase their wildlife encounters. I have taught an informal Habitat Evaluation Class for guys and gals and it becomes apparent that every one could benefit with a Bio. 101 class. The basic components of Food, Cover, and Water and sex during mating season -govern animal usage of any area whether the pop. density (related to caring capacity) is 1 critter per acre, 1 per quarter section, 1 per square mile or 1 per township! More usage = more of a chance to catch. Odon Corr's video of "location" (if you can read the small print!!!!) is a prime example of the plains habitat he trapped in and how it evolved into "the place" to make a set. East of the Mississippi and especially in the Southeastern U.S. where the Habitat (food, cover, and water needs) is higher quality for coyotes it may take a more critical look at what is limiting/guiding animal usage and where trap/harvest exposure is greatest. Evaluate the habitat and hopefully quicker catches are made. Predators ('yotes) will hang around an area as long as those 3 components are easily met. If the water to drink, dries up or the rabbits get scarce or the corn field disappears they will adjust their "frequency of use" (limiting your trap exposure to them). Hence the average person's statement that "It takes 5-7 days to complete their circuit/route here". That .01 percent of fur harvesters will be doing some stomach analysis, aging analysis checking foot pads etc. to see what is driving those coyotes at that time. Then adjust their "locations" to better encounter a coyote on a daily basis. That's my take after a few decades of watching and trying to learn (still at it). the mike

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