Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345596
10/11/18 07:25 PM
10/11/18 07:25 PM
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"Twerker"
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the buy 6 miles from my house but in ny and i was told the wouldn't buy PA fur from guys that said they tried.i have a ny tag also and can go that route it was more of interest why they skirt PA.figured it was our regs.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345927
10/12/18 11:32 AM
10/12/18 11:32 AM
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"The Coon Combine"
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At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: LLtrapper]
#6345934
10/12/18 11:52 AM
10/12/18 11:52 AM
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Nick C
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At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL I think you’re taking his point out of context. He’s living with it as in they’re dealing with it, making due. You asked Why? It’s not like Groney has any say or influence in the tariffs, doesn’t sound like they support it at all, but that’s the cards their business has been dealt. It’s Groenewold’s best interest to be able to pay as much as possible for raccoons as long as they can hit their profit margins as well. The more they pay the more business they will generate. Lack of end user and a weakening chinese economy is not helping any of that.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345940
10/12/18 12:04 PM
10/12/18 12:04 PM
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Posts: 12,157 Armpit, ak
Dirt
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They may not give you 37.5% more for your fur. They may sell their finished product for 37.5% less. I like to think of taxes as another middleman like a furbuyer.
Last edited by Dirt; 10/12/18 12:11 PM.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: Nick C]
#6345944
10/12/18 12:12 PM
10/12/18 12:12 PM
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At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL I think you’re taking his point out of context. He’s living with it as in they’re dealing with it, making due. You asked Why? It’s not like Groney has any say or influence in the tariffs, doesn’t sound like they support it at all, but that’s the cards their business has been dealt. It’s Groenewold’s best interest to be able to pay as much as possible for raccoons as long as they can hit their profit margins as well. The more they pay the more business they will generate. Lack of end user and a weakening chinese economy is not helping any of that. That is the point of a tariff I believe. To change behavior. Saying you can live with a tariff imposed on you because it has been that way a long time is really stating why it needs to be done even more. Zero tariffs would be better for both. I am not interested in handing billions of dollars to a government that don't use money for their people and instead use it for their war machine but that is another conversation. A producer of raw fur has seen it below input cost and somehow that is ok as long as we bolster the hand of our enemy. I understand now. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345945
10/12/18 12:14 PM
10/12/18 12:14 PM
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Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: LLtrapper]
#6345947
10/12/18 12:18 PM
10/12/18 12:18 PM
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Dirt
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Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Donald trying to force China to remove tariffs? The reason people put up with export tariffs is because we are consumers not producers.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345949
10/12/18 12:29 PM
10/12/18 12:29 PM
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"Twerker"
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Groeny rocks,no one else gonna say it i will.i am only asking about the PA fur cause i'm looking at every way to market MY wild fur any way i can.i have a NY lisc. as i said so i will go that route,no pun intended.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: PSB1011]
#6345950
10/12/18 12:31 PM
10/12/18 12:31 PM
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Ive sold them fur numerous times. don't holler at me Phil,i'm sensative.  .after 2 weeks of scouting for coyotes i'm starting to think all your reds moved up here to get away from you.good day,i'll shut up now.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: LLtrapper]
#6345971
10/12/18 01:13 PM
10/12/18 01:13 PM
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Nick C
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Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL Im all for ending all tarrifs. Especially on soybeans and raccoons. What do you suggest GFW does as a business with the tarrifs they face? Are you just complaining or do you have an actual idea of how to overcome this obstacle?
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6345981
10/12/18 01:32 PM
10/12/18 01:32 PM
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I took offense to him implying that he wants business as usual is and that's ok. He is making money now and we are just "trapping for the fun".
Dirt I will correct you. We as trappers and the American farmer are producers. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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