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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: The Beav] #6350596
10/18/18 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Newt
But ADC, you make only 1 set over and over,out of your truck.Your method works for Iowa roadside snaring.
Sure would not work on my snare lines 80% of the time.


Not exactly. I snare coons that way and a few fox but my coyotes and beaver are two different methods not on the roadside. One thing they do all have in common is the same size support wire and same sized cable. I've tried several other cable sizes and different support wires and I have no desire to use them again.

Originally Posted By: The Beav
And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351224
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ADC, How do you set beaver snares. I'v seen your road side set up.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Newt] #6351292
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Originally Posted By: Newt
Bad news- I have to have another operation.

Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over.
Beard has to come off again.


When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!!

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351298
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If I was forced to use those curly-q type whammies I’d quit snaring....

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Newt] #6351318
10/19/18 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Newt
ADC, How do you set beaver snares. I'v seen your road side set up.


Basically just a shorter killpole. I snare them on land usually 2' from the waters edge in a fake slide.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: 9wire] #6351320
10/19/18 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: 9wire
If I was forced to use those curly-q type whammies I’d quit snaring....
grin

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351379
10/19/18 09:57 AM
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ADC, on out recent trip thru Iowa I marveled that you have large fields and No Rocks. Here in north Jersey there are few places I could drive in even a 12 inch rebar stake. I have to either use a drag (notched rock or brick) or staple fast to a tree. Once in a while I can stake a snare but use a 8 inch wooden oak stake. The wood will jam between the rocks so that even a small bear cannot pull it. I use oak hardwood flooring scraps as they rot fast and within a year disappear, so they are in essence a disposable stake, cause you ain't pullin them out.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351448
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I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. I see no downside, but I am sure someone will find a problem with it

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Hutchy] #6351454
10/19/18 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great.
Works great for me too.


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: bctomcat] #6351479
10/19/18 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: bctomcat
Originally Posted By: Hutchy
I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great.
Works great for me too.


What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: eric space] #6351481
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Originally Posted By: eric space
ADC, on out recent trip thru Iowa I marveled that you have large fields and No Rocks. Here in north Jersey there are few places I could drive in even a 12 inch rebar stake. I have to either use a drag (notched rock or brick) or staple fast to a tree. Once in a while I can stake a snare but use a 8 inch wooden oak stake. The wood will jam between the rocks so that even a small bear cannot pull it. I use oak hardwood flooring scraps as they rot fast and within a year disappear, so they are in essence a disposable stake, cause you ain't pullin them out.


What can I say? Just another reason to get out of that state you live in. laugh

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351495
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I have use both 5/64 and 3/32 cable with 11ga support wire without. I've never had a problem without crimping them. Just set back on the support wire tipped up a bit.


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: ~ADC~] #6351503
10/19/18 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
[quote=bctomcat][quote=Hutchy]I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. Works great for me too

What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind.


I dunno. I can set my snares in any direction I want. Easy firing so that they go off with just a touch, or set the loop a bit higher so it's harder firing. I don't know what size the wire is. I got it in bulk from a place that sells rebar. They used it as tie wire. Fits perfect in a ferrule with no slack. I use 3/32 7x7. The cable never moves in the ferrule, but you can adjust loop size easily. If my wire support is more than about 2 1/2 feet from the (usually a tree) the wire does sag some. I just double it then. To attach the support wire to a tree I cut it off on an angle with cutters so it is sharp, then bend about 3/4 of it to 90 degrees and hammer it into the tree like a nail with the side of the cutters. Really fast. If it is below about -5, only on hardwoods I keep a 12v drill with me and drill a pilot for the support wire because the sap is frozen and the wire doesn't nail into the tree easily. Using the drill slows you down a bit, but not much.

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Aix sponsa] #6351515
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Originally Posted By: Aix sponsa
Your mileage must vary....
?????????


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351521
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He means that for whatever reason you may see different results than he did with that method.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351535
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Thanks for the info. It's just as I suspected, the cable can slide in the ferrule, so for me I would not like it. A lot of my locations are are on steeper terrain where I need the wammy to hold the loop at a 30-45 degree angle from level in order to be 90 degrees to the trail. ... oh, and we don't have trees. lol Tough to wire off to a blade of grass.

Different strokes for different folks. No one is wrong here, well except those who like the cone shaped, "one-size-fits-none", things to support their snares. grin

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351634
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Originally Posted By: Jonesie
Originally Posted By: Newt
Bad news- I have to have another operation.

Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over.
Beard has to come off again.


When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!!



It anit nut'n
just a stent


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351669
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You scary with the beard off Newt?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351970
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I cant do that stent job pretty cheap for ya.
I took a one week correspondence course on stents
and got a perfect attendance award.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6353340
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Leary I think we can a piece of that clear tubbing they use for fish tank air hose in and he would be fixed for a long time.


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