Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: hippie]
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10/18/18 04:40 PM
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We have a libertarian state senator here in Nebraska, laura ebke. From what I understand, shes the highest elected libertarian in America. As far as automatic weapons, a gun is just a piece of metal, government has no more business regulating that piece of metal than any other piece of metal I own. Elected as a Republican and then changed parties, Same as Gary Johnson. But that's ok with me. How many gun laws has she eliminated since she's been in? As far as I know, not a single one. From what I understand she's always leaned libertarian but made the switch in opposition to our governor. She's pro-DACA, that's all I need to know about her. Though on this particular issue, her website says that owning any weapon, in and of itself should not be a crime.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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10/18/18 05:16 PM
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The law was passed because in the 20's too many gangsters used them in crimes, hence the '27 NFA. BUT, full auto firearms can be possessed legally with the proper registration and NFA Stamp, like Suppressors. NO firearm can be possessed with altered or destroyed serial numbers. Did he actually buy it, or did he steal it from the Government during his military service?
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: Ditchdiver]
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10/18/18 08:20 PM
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"fully automatic"....gets me every time! Whys that?
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: hippie]
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10/18/18 08:49 PM
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Blame Al Capone and the likes for why it's now illegal. Or, keep whining about something you and i had no control over.
Vote enough pro-gunners in and we might get somewhere, but with the 50-50 splits we've been having, nothing is gonna change.
Finn.......... The democrat lite paerty has done more than your group will ever do to help us. Get one elected would be a good first step. Easy to say what they "might" do when they can't even get elected to dog-catcher.
No, they haven't. Their platform, instead of calling for the abolition of the NFA and subsequent unconstitutional federal gun laws, mumbles on about reciprocity for permission slips to carry concealed and 'lawful' gun owners. Blah blah blah. Buncha do-nothing grifters.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: goldnut]
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"fully automatic"....gets me every time! Whys that? because automatic is automatic. They put "fully" in front to make it sound scary.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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10/18/18 09:04 PM
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"Who?" put fully in front of it? Reason I was wondering is that it really only had me guessing what you meant by that statement. Then as I was looking through the Wyoming regulations it states in there that no one shall take wildlife with any fully auto weapon. Seems they dont think it is a scary term.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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10/18/18 09:24 PM
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Not sure it is redundant but I was wondering "who" put it in there to imply scary? Guess I dont see it as scary. I think it was put there years ago just to distinguish between semi auto and full auto.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: goldnut]
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I think it was put there years ago just to distinguish between semi auto and full auto. I think so too.
Eh...wot?
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: BigBob]
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The law was passed because in the 20's too many gangsters used them in crimes, hence the '27 NFA. BUT, full auto firearms can be possessed legally with the proper registration and NFA Stamp, like Suppressors. NO firearm can be possessed with altered or destroyed serial numbers. Did he actually buy it, or did he steal it from the Government during his military service? NFA came about in '34. And that was just to keep revenue agents employed after Prohibition was repealed. The ATF is a tax agency. Why they have goons in tactical gear kicking down doors over tax issues is a joke. Mike
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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10/19/18 05:13 AM
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330 I do both.
I have a real hard time understanding how somebody can rabidly support the ownership of semi look a like rifles and in the same breath claim auto firearms should be taxed regulated and heavily controlled. Including banning production for civilian sales.
The NRA got the NFA passed in 34 by playing on peoples fear of bank robbers. Bonnie and Clyde were fond of BAR 30-06 for example and others liked the smaller .45 "tommy gun".
Everyone ought to read up on how the government got it past the supremes.
Every argument you folks make in support of black semi rifles equally applies to auto's.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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10/19/18 06:43 AM
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If you pull the trigger one time on a "semi-automatic", how many times does it shoot? Then it should be called a single shot. A pump can be fired nearly as fast as a semi-automatic.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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10/19/18 07:30 AM
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The 'semi' in semi automatic is what distinguishes one from the other. Fully automatic is redundant. come on devil dog....you know the full auto distinguishes from the 3-round burst
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