I feel the same as your daughter, Matt . It's been years since I've shot a deer with anything other than my bow.

You should use an atlatl, why you use a compound bow if you want to be primitive?

Don't stir up the bow nuts.

Not a fan of the "Youth Hunts" My father sacrificed a lot of his season for me to be able to hunt and give me a good chance of being successful, I did the same for my son. Nowadays everyone has to sacrifice because there are fathers that won't...

Guess i shouldn't, but he doesn't miss a chance to look down on crossbow hunters. Did it on the last two hunting posts he made, lol.
Everything is ok up to what he thinks is good to hunt with.

Ps, i don't use a compound so i can bust his nads!

I feel bad for her now she has been wanting to kill a deer with her bow. This morning after the two bucks came by a doe showed up at 17 yards and she took the shot, she was too excited and hit it in the throat. I been tracking it and it looks like I won't be recovering it. I thought I had gave it enough time with all the blood at the spot she shot it but ended up jumping her and she sure didn't look to bad hurt.

That's too bad Matt. Hope she doesn't lose interest in hunting because of it.
Why won't she use a rifle?

I let her shoot my 243 and she said it kicks to much. I dont think it's the kick I think it's that its loud and jumps some. She is 12 and I thought by now she would be fine with a rifle but guess we will give it a few more years. She said she is going to keep trying and will try to be calm and make better shots. She was so excited when she shot it it fell down and was flipping then ran and fell again, she gave me a hug and was crying and she said I am so proud that I shot one. Now she said she not so proud of her self I told her I was proud she sit there all morning and never complained and didn't give up when the big bucks didn't give her a shot. I told her that hunting isn't all ways about making a kill and that a lot of people dont get to experience a morning like we did

Try to keep her spirits up and reassure her it will be ok. Your right about the the kill isn't the main thing. She'll see that someday, but now she probably doesn't.

My daughter loved to go along squarrel hunting but had no interest in deer hunting. At that time, deer season was cold and we didn't have this youth season. I don't know if it would've made a difference, but i'll never know now.

I used the don't push, let her think it thru herself method.

hip, you should be proud of yourself for having such a huge inferiority complex;).

Isn't me who always complains about what others use. Mirror?

hip, We are dumbing down hunting to try to coax folks who lack the initiative to do something that may not come easy to them. I don't care how people hunt, but a sense of accomplishement is one of the things that will keep young hunters hunting later in life.

In PA we have longer seasons, bigger bag limits, easier ways to kill deer, more special weapon seasons and some still are crying for easier ways.....don't suppose you're one of the guys lobbying for baiting?

And the line you added to the end of my post you quoted is a flat out lie. Why did you add it to my post?

Not to be a Richard, but crossbows are archery tackle, so they should be legal during archery season.

He's trying to deny he said that now.

Many guys feel that way, Richard. Many others do not. Some states that allow them list an archery season AND a crossbow season. That way they can manage the seasons differently if the need arrises, PA did not because of pressure from the pro xbow croud-the same group that threw a fit when, at first, scopes were not going to be allowed for use.

I happen to think one should have to draw the weapon in the presence of the game. If somebody feels dfferently-no problem, they have gotten their way. Have at it.

What Les said that Zim said!

When adults can't figure out what is fair, good, bad or ugly it is little wonder why we can't figure out how to engage youth in what we would like to see in meaningful lifetime hunting and or outdoor experience and lifestyle. There are more youth than we want to think about that spend a lot of time in the outdoors but don't hunt, trap etc. because they don't need to get into the politics and bashing of those that feel they have the right and only way to harvest our natural resources.

Bryce

Crossbows have been around a lot longer than compound bows.

Well Bryce, I think I found a good location today to teach the kiddies all about beaver trapping and they will never have to leave their comfort zone.