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Birders: Thrushes ? #6354186
10/22/18 10:00 PM
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These two different specimens briefly stopped by my brush pile yesterday and today. Any thoughts on what species they might be as seen in fall plumage - possible Swainson's, Hermit or Veery?

Jonathan

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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6354263
10/22/18 11:33 PM
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Number 2 is, I believe, a Fox Sparrow. Number 1 be.......Hermit (juvenile)????


Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6354266
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Boy Jonathan, Those thrush can be a pain to I.D. Check out the bill color and shape on the #2 bird, that rules out a thrush according to all my reference books.


Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6354275
10/22/18 11:49 PM
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Thanks, JM. I overlooked that one as a probable sparrow species.

Regards,

Jonathan


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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6354290
10/23/18 01:01 AM
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I'll post a modest bet on Gray Cheeked Thrush for the following reasons: the light eye ring is present but not sharply defined like Hermit nor buff like a swainsons. Also, no buff stripe emerging ahead of the bill as on Swainson's. And according to my field guide, Eastern Hermits appear to have a lighter bill.

Many Thrushes are hard to differentiate as breeding adults, and this is a juvenile, so who knows? Hermit, GC, and Swainson's are common summer breeders here and are easily heard but rarely seen. A welcome sound of late spring. I agree that # 2 is a Fox sparrow.

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6354301
10/23/18 05:01 AM
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Not sure on first one, but second definitely Fox Sparrow, they are usually scratching soil vigorously looking for food. I call them natures little rototillers


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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: RdFx] #6354511
10/23/18 10:28 AM
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The first is a hermit thrush. You can't overlook the red color to the primary wing tips and the tail. No other ID characteristics matter, especially in the fall.

The second is a fox sparrow

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6356619
10/25/18 06:19 PM
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The fox sparrow is last years melting into a adult plumage
Nice pics

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6356672
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Neat looking birds

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455923
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I'm adding to this post. I'm no birder but what do you think on these two different sparrows?
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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455937
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Male white crown and an English(house) sparrow male also

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455952
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Good spotting there with the brown cap; Passer montanus
and that one that sings; Oh Canada..oh Canada as it notes,,,,, except for the eastern form that sing pea-body pea-body

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Originally Posted by cohunt
Male white crown and an English(house) sparrow male also

sorry cohunt it is not a Passer domesticus
Then I see where the poster is from and they breed locally there.
right of Cardinal is a White throated sparrow adult

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455963
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Beautiful Shots Jonathan!


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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455967
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North of--obviously NOT white crown, lots of give-aways but I was distracted because the white is so brilliant which is common for the white crown and not the white throat. Sure sucks getting OLD.

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birds are feeding on venison tallow , ground feeding seeds, black sunflower seeds plus going nuts on bread, every species on bread.


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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6455989
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Sparrow in the picture with the Cardinal looks like a Eurasian Tree Sparrow, brown cap with white ring all the way around neck.

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Where's the Daisy when you need it. Just kidding. Sometimes I can't help myself...
Audubon woulda done it that way.

Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Jonathan] #6457173
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One of my favorite songs in the wild, a late afternoon serenade by a Wood Thrush deep in the bush.


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Re: Birders: Thrushes ? [Re: Tray] #6458117
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Originally Posted by Tray
Sparrow in the picture with the Cardinal looks like a Eurasian Tree Sparrow, brown cap with white ring all the way around neck.



Correct as noted by Northof50 above. They were restricted to the St. Louis area when I saw them there many years ago. The yellow above the eye makes the other one an obvious White-throated.

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