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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6356753
10/25/18 08:43 PM
10/25/18 08:43 PM
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As far as trapping predators goes,scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention.
The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.

Last edited by Boco; 10/25/18 08:44 PM.

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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6356996
10/26/18 07:01 AM
10/26/18 07:01 AM
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As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere.

It was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings laugh I just thought that many top bow hunters swear by its advantages so that was the reason for the question.
As a note:
I dont believe its possible to totally eliminate all human odor at the set but I think we can all agree that there are ways to decrease human odor.


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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6357006
10/26/18 07:23 AM
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I remember seeing something on the Discovery channel where the guy was explaining how k9's smell. Long story short they can separate smells . So it's kinda like a stew. As humans we can smell the main scent of the combined ingredients whereas they can pick out the individual ingredients.

Seems kinda funny when you think about the deer hunters who put doe urine on themselves as a cover scent. That ole buck is probably thinking," the heck is a doe doing 40' up a tree with a human ?"


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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6357013
10/26/18 07:29 AM
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Wolfy and thereafter the buck became suspicious of all his does. Checking them for human scent, asking them where they were all night, going through their purses and cell phones. Oh the mistrust that a little doe in heat cover scent must have caused in that deer herd.
First time the buck caught a doe licking a candy wrapper I bet he came unglued on her. Called her a bait corn lover or something like that. Getting her dinner at the humans deer feeder instead of foraging and browsing in the woods like a respectable doe. Sheesh, some does....
grin

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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6357022
10/26/18 07:58 AM
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If I put my bare hands into my scent bag- I guarantee they will smell like what ever I took out and touched on the way in.

Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: Eagleye] #6357037
10/26/18 08:29 AM
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“As far as trapping predators goes, scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention.
The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.”

Lots of information in this statement that can make your life on the line easier if you take it it.



“As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere.”

I would never say that human scent will not cause an adverse initial effect on any critter. I do not doubt the stores like the one above of animals showing a negative reaction to hitting a human's trail.

I also would suspect that an animal, say a canine, in rural Maine might behave a bit differently to human scent than say the same type of critter in a heavy agriculture area in Pa., Indiana, Illinois etc.

But there are a couple things to consider.
As Boco explained, animals can become almost excited to hit your scent if they associate it with a free meal.
It is doubtful you can ever make a set for a critter and not leave human scent. The most logical thing to do is be basically clean in that keep traps free from lure and bait odors, get in and get out. You are making a set, not building a piano.

Back when I had a lot of free time and gas was cheap I did a lot of pre-baiting. Often handled bait with bare hands, on purpose.



Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: jabNE] #6357051
10/26/18 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: jabNE
Wolfy and thereafter the buck became suspicious of all his does. Checking them for human scent, asking them where they were all night, going through their purses and cell phones. Oh the mistrust that a little doe in heat cover scent must have caused in that deer herd.
First time the buck caught a doe licking a candy wrapper I bet he came unglued on her. Called her a bait corn lover or something like that. Getting her dinner at the humans deer feeder instead of foraging and browsing in the woods like a respectable doe. Sheesh, some does....
grin

I know that feeling...... frown


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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: Mac] #6357058
10/26/18 08:51 AM
10/26/18 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mac
Boco
“As far as trapping predators goes, scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention.
The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.”

Lots of information in this statement that can make your life on the line easier if you take it it.



“As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere.”

I would never say that human scent will not cause an adverse initial effect on any critter. I do not doubt the stores like the one above of animals showing a negative reaction to hitting a human's trail.

I also would suspect that an animal, say a canine, in rural Maine might behave a bit differently to human scent than say the same type of critter in a heavy agriculture area in Pa., Indiana, Illinois etc.

But there are a couple things to consider.
As Boco explained, animals can become almost excited to hit your scent if they associate it with a free meal.
It is doubtful you can ever make a set for a critter and not leave human scent. The most logical thing to do is be basically clean in that keep traps free from lure and bait odors, get in and get out. You are making a set, not building a piano.

Back when I had a lot of free time and gas was cheap I did a lot of pre-baiting. Often handled bait with bare hands, on purpose.


Great points. And well taken. I am pulling my sets. My son has a moose tag for Zone 16, probably one of the least populated zones in Maine short of Portland. Should I bait my dirt holes with smelts just to give them a little something while I am gone?
I need to pull them and re dye and wax them anyway. I did not have any wax/dye earlier but the traps had been hanging in the woods so I took a chance. But every day if I dont get a coyote the foxes dig 1-2 sets.


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Re: Sent Killer and trapping? [Re: scalloper] #6359692
10/29/18 06:51 AM
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Make some sets with it and some without it and keep us posted !!

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