Wolf would probably add the 875 listed for the endangered.

Thanks tlguy makes it pretty clear there. Guess that didn't tack on any more than is allowed or required by law. I can't see how anyone condones the actions taken by the hunter but I can see how things like this can happen on an almost unposted road. It does seem like he or they knew or realized what they did was against the law and regulations by the action taken after the kill and not being forthcoming with the biologist. May have hoped their honest mistake was not discovered or may have known all along it was wrong. I don't know and don't think anybody on here does either but it was illegal and punishment is/was set before the incident and I feel it was appropriate. Just my .02

I agree. Other than it was far from an “honest mistake”

Beav, I agree with you here. Was it a dirt or gravel road in a remote spot? No one knows the exact circumstance. The old adage of "casting the first stone" applies here, everyone of us has made dumb mistakes. I'd like to think that people on here understand that vilifying a hunter is what the anti's want.

Here's a quote from the full article.

"Information relayed to Wisconsin Outdoor News has a cow and two calves, followed by a small bull, crossing FR 174, with Sparhawk (guide/driver) stopping the truck so the elk could clear the road. They were followed by the larger bull. According to the sources, Wiltzius then stepped out of Sparhawk's truck, loaded his rifle and shot the bull."

Forest Road 174 isn't paved, but it looks to be a well maintained gravel road from the aerial view on google maps. Far from a 1 lane 2-track logging road. There's no guessing that, you can see for yourself on the map.

Whether the guy got caught up in the pursuit and forgot you can't shoot from the road or chose to shoot the bull from the road despite the regulations, the result is the same, broken game laws.

Bottom line is, if he had shot a deer, this wouldn't be news. Happens every year in Wisconsin and all over the place. Some places it might even be legal, but not here. The added scrutiny of it being the inaugural elk hunt, a success story in reintroduction if you're into that sort of thing, means it's in the papers and now we're discussing it online. I'm not trying to vilify the guy, I don't know him so I won't form an opinion on what kinda character he is. I just think if he broke the law as alleged, he should pay the price.

There were only three witnesses, The only way they get convicted is by narcing on each other. I think I know what Red Foreman would call these guys.

Stupid comes to mind.

Just think a minute please. Regardless of how you feel about the actual unlawful action. Keep in mind was the act intentional,reckless and or negligent. That is the basic for most criminal charges. Over $2000.00 in fines for shooting a elk off a dirt road assisted by a "guide" really you we as hunter trappers etc alow this to happen. One more way of taking your rights from you using the same system that was supposed to protect us from the rich government. Think again if this same person walked into a inner-city conference store with a stolen gun fired it into the store robed the clerk led the police in a chase and was caught. The very first thing that would happen his court appointed attorney would say he has a drug problem or mental health problems. He the would then receive TREATMENT for said problem. Sealed records and No one would remember his name. He hurt no one, he endangered no one, he broke the law with assistance of someone who should have never allowed this to happen to begin with. Justice to fit the crime. Wildlife laws in my opinion are out of control. If he'd been drunk driving and hit and killed the same elk on the same road 500.00 dollar fine. Just think about it. Retired from law enforcement.

Interesting to see that Beaver and Wolf have the same price tag.

The public suffers loss of opportunity every time the game commission missmanages the pubic resource.(overharvest comes to mind.) Who pays the restitution then ?

Why dosen't the driver that kills a deer with his or her car not have to pay restitution? The DNR coffers would be fat If that was law.

Because I would sue the government for not keeping those animals off the road.

People who run down deer on purpose have been ordered to pay restitution for those animals.

There is a little difference between accidental and intentional.

Accidental my eye

Many state agencies including fish and wildlife agencies make pizzz poor decisions that prove to be detrimental to wildlife .

Poor decisions usually derive from poor accountability

Who pays restitution then ?

The "guide" should be held accountable for his client actions. The client may not have known the law but the "guide " should have or can anyone in Wisconsin call themselves a guide and charge for there services? He broke the law and should be held accountable and the person collect a pay check helping him brake the law should be fined also. Perhaps these called "Guide" needs to pay the restitution.

I get a kick out of all you rock throwers. Not one of you Is as pure as driven snow.
Get a life.

Hey! I resemble that remark.

Just follow the Laws or work to get them altered. Otherwise get off the road for MANY good reasons. It's not like we all don't know that! Good Grief!

On a different note, looks like another fellow was successful.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/spor...eFQet1zguPe-ZlaH-GaHteum0JtgMaUfZq9fLHAw

For those kids reading this and wondering how some folks get all the breaks in life, start following this man's example. You will quickly find yourself getting all the breaks!

Thanks for sharing, I feel like that's a much better representation of Northern Wisconsin hospitality and good old sportsmanship and ethics.