Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/16/18 11:36 AM
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Did you walk up make the set and then turn around and leave? Or did you set the CR then step over the set then continue up the trail 15-20 yards, then double back?
If you walked up, made the set then turned around, he was probably following your scent and wondered where it went so turned around.
I don’t think they care or know what cable restraints are, they duck under fences all the time.
Just my two cents, someone will correct me.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: DelawareRob]
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11/16/18 11:40 AM
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Newt
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Did you walk up make the set and then turn around and leave? Or did you set the CR then step over the set then continue up the trail 15-20 yards, then double back?
If you walked up, made the set then turned around, he was probably following your scent and wondered where it went so turned around.
I don’t think they care or know what cable restraints are, they duck under fences all the time.
Just my two cents, someone will correct me. Rob has it right. Walk through your sets.Do Not walk around,or make set and turn around and go back.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: Newt]
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11/16/18 01:25 PM
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The Beav
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Skip the blending your changing the land scape and that will get you In trouble. Leave things as natural as possible. The more time you spend at the set the more sign you leave. Especially when here Is snow on the ground. I try to set from the sides I don't like to walk down a trail. But If I have to I will walk right trough the set CR. If your stabilizer Is solid the CR should swing right back Into position
Flag your sets so you don't have to go In and check them every day. If you have some flagging with In 5' of your set It will be down If you have a catch. Go In about every 3 days to make sure the CR Isn't down.
Always set more then one CR In the trail doubles aren't un common and a extra CR or 2 will help If one gets knocked down with out a catch.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: Newt]
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11/16/18 02:30 PM
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Skip the blending your changing the landscape and that will get you In trouble. Leave things as natural as possible. The more time you spend at the set the more sign you leave. Especially when here Is snow on the ground. Walk through your sets.Do Not walk around,or make set and turn around and go back. Agree with both of the above comments.
Last edited by bctomcat; 11/16/18 02:35 PM.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/16/18 05:25 PM
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Newt
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Get in and out fast.Small scent pool. But do it right.
A old gun fighter was teaching a your man the trade. He said "Take you time and aim. BUT DO IT FAST"
Last edited by Newt; 11/16/18 05:28 PM.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/28/18 10:07 AM
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It could be he thinks trail is blocked, next time it might be distracted or forget it's there and hit it, I blend with a few stalks of grass added to snare-support, I even fence openings with added weeds to try a convince them to hit snare
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/28/18 10:11 PM
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Boone Liane
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They see em.
I see far more refusals after we get some snow, and especially during the full moon on clear nights.
Open country I think the wind gets em bouncing some too and makes em easier to spot.
They don’t know what it is, but they don’t need to. They see something there and they avoid it.
I try to not ever walk down my trails if at all possible. Sneak in from the side. If I have to move in the trail, go through the set and keep going at least 20-30 yards.
Last edited by Boone Liane; 11/28/18 10:17 PM.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/29/18 03:10 PM
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The Beav
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If It were me I wouldn't walk In the trails. I would sneak In from the side and make my set. Sure you can catch coyotes If you walk down the trail. But what about the coyotes that shy away from your tracks. We want to catch them all not just a few.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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12/03/18 05:59 PM
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When I set out snares, I NEVER walk in the yote trails. I make a great circle around where I expect their trails to be, and approach at an angle. I always step over the trail when I cross it, never on it, ever. I have seen one “refusal”, in four years. I don’t even know that it was a refusal or a distraction that made the yotechange course. I snare on snow only. I hang bare untreated cables with my bare hands. I simply think that like with many things trapping, many ppl. way overthink things. There are a few basics, like avoiding walking down the trails. I check the snares from a distance where possible, which can mean anything from 5 feet in thick stuff, to 50 yards with binoculars.
Ten well set snares in good natural blended spots, will out catch 100 snares set haphazardly and trying to fence them in, walking around making a mess, or checking them too closely. Oh, and I do go check them and turn around, if you are far enough away, it doesn’t matter a bit.
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Re: Coyotes and spooking from cables?
[Re: Eagleye]
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12/04/18 09:05 AM
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Does anyone set snares or CR's with a dog? I personally do not- but sometimes when I'm watching my son's Lab, I think about taking him out when setting (I wouldn't for checking). I would think additional canine smells and tracks would be intriguing to a yote but I have no idea? I don't think you would want additional smells on the trails your setting CRs on. The yotes could slow down and start looking around. You want them moving when they hit the CR. IMO it's best to get in and out without them knowing anything was there. I never walk their trails, I come in from the side. I've seen many times where they see my tracks and do a instant 180° turn.
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