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Castor in cat bait/lure #6383988
11/27/18 10:41 PM
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Making a bobcat bait/lure. How much castor do I need to add to a pound of meat to make it effective?

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6384179
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You can't go wrong here with too much castor and skunk.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6384350
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I had two ground castors in appx 1 lb of meat... made a flashy step down and dirt hole set.
I caught the cat on a scent post with Caven's Feline Fix... all (3) sets were within 20 yards of each other. That tells me I should let the experts... be the experts.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: Eagleye] #6384538
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
I had two ground castors in appx 1 lb of meat... made a flashy step down and dirt hole set.
I caught the cat on a scent post with Caven's Feline Fix... all (3) sets were within 20 yards of each other. That tells me I should let the experts... be the experts.



Negative on that...All that says, is that there are other ingredients besides castor in those lures...that's all.


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Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: Eagleye] #6384542
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
That tells me I should let the experts... be the experts.



So what would you tell the folks who do much better using their own bait&lure vs commercial supah leet bait &lure? JMO, but lots and lots of variables.....


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Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6384551
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Every commercial lure maker I know started out making his own and kept with it to he come out with a winner like Tim did with Caven's Feline Fix. You are definitely on the right track adding some beaver castor to your bait for cats or canines. Stick with it my friend.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TDHP] #6384582
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Originally Posted by TDHP
Originally Posted by Eagleye
That tells me I should let the experts... be the experts.



So what would you tell the folks who do much better using their own bait&lure vs commercial supah leet bait &lure? JMO, but lots and lots of variables.....


I would tell them- I'm better at trapping than bait making

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6384730
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Ahhh waka waka waka


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Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6384859
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Thanks guys. I'll definitely be sticking with it. What have I got to lose? If it doesn't ever work, there's always Cavens. If it does, I'll be happy.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6385025
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none of the pros were born that way! we will all be worm food before we perfect it 100%


LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6385146
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Originally Posted by TrappinTreachery
Thanks guys. I'll definitely be sticking with it. What have I got to lose? If it doesn't ever work, there's always Cavens. If it does, I'll be happy.




That's the spirit! I also don't know anyone who was engineered by birth to be an "EXPERT" at anything. I believe "practice, dedication and determination to accomplish what one sets out to do, is what sets them apart from the rest. When it comes to stuff like this, don't let others dictate or discourage you from doing something you enjoy. Follow for too long and you'll never lead. Test all the time year round rain, snow and shine, you'll learn from the mistakes along the way. Take it for what it's worth, having an understanding on the animals you're making bait&lure for will put you ahead of the game when "formulating your supah leet bait&lure. You will do well I'm sure. Good luck!


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Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6385161
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Intent vs Impact
Guys I didn’t mean to kick the hornet’s nest and I applaud your efforts in lure formulating, if you have better results with your own recipes- I think that’s awesome. Here’s my reality- In Wisconsin, we draw a Bobcat tag about every 10 years, the likelihood of me stumbling onto a better bait or gland lure during that duration – is highly unlikely, I would rather burn calories trapping. Yes, everyone starts in the same place, June, Cavens, Dobbins’, Lenon, Weiser, Dunlap and the list goes on, those names have spent hours and sometimes generations formulating those recipes and I personally have a higher success rate capitalizing on their past efforts on certain furbearers. I make a lot of my own lures and I had the privilege of spending many hours in Leo Hoeft’s fur shed in Northern Wisconsin, watching him put up fur and formulate lures, it’s a science, sometimes and art but an immense amount of hard work and dedication. Cat lure is a specialty item for me, you may have time to perfect it, I don’t.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: Eagleye] #6385369
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Eagleye, don't worry, you didn't discourage me. We all have our reasons for doing things or for not doing them. Your reason for not making baits/lures is as valid as my reason for doing so. I may never become a Tim Caven, Paul Dobbins, or Mark June, and I'm ok with that. Doesn't mean I can't have some fun or success along the way. One thing I am sure of is that I'll have some frustration too. That's life. Tight chains, friend.

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: TrappinTreachery] #6385412
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Trappin Treachery, Absolutely... I enjoy the taste of Maple Syrup once in awhile but I'll never make it again. I'm also willing to pay the price for it because I have an appreciation what it takes to do it.
If you get to the point of commercializing your baits/lures someday- I'll place the first order.
Have a great season!

Re: Castor in cat bait/lure [Re: Eagleye] #6387451
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I add two inches to a gallon of bait....with other things

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