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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/28/18 11:13 AM
11/28/18 11:13 AM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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Go what's legal In WI. Smaller then 12" and lower then 12" won't get you any more coyotes.
Those 12" restrictions are costing us coyotes.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
#6384380
11/28/18 12:52 PM
11/28/18 12:52 PM
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late bite
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Good morning,
What is the smallest loop size and height I can go with and still catch coyotes? The farm I set cable restraints on is LOADED with deer and I don't want to catch one. I either have to set small loops or not set at all out of fear of catching deer. I'm thinking about setting a 8.5" loop 8" off the ground. Why do you think you will not catch deer still?
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
#6384480
11/28/18 03:16 PM
11/28/18 03:16 PM
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grumley701
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Knock on wood I have yet to neck snare a deer, we don't have a ton of deer. My experience with a snare set with a 12" loop and 12" off the ground results in either a knocked down snare or leg caught deer, which with a leg caught deer all but one opened the B.A.D and the one that I had to cut free was a yearling caught in a thicket. ND regs are 12" by 12".
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
#6384488
11/28/18 03:35 PM
11/28/18 03:35 PM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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Set the loop as High as you can legally. And make It as big as you can legally.
A deer Is going to knock It down no matter what. Loop size Is very important. The bigger the loop the less visible It Is. And It's easier to guide a coyotes head through a 12" loop then a 10" loop.
Here's what you need to do. Your stabilizer needs to be as solid as you can get It. This stuffing wire In the ground Isn't going to cut It. Then you need a positive hook up between the whammy and your support wire. And you need to have that lock somewhere around 11:00 so It won't just fall when It's being pushed around. With my system I can walk right through my loop and It will just swing back Into place . I have even been able to drive my f-150 through snares hung in my tire tracks and have them swing back Into place. Not all the time but most of the time.
I use 3/8" square stock. I drill 2 holes through the metal about 4" apart. I shove the support wire through the top hole bend the wire and shove It through the bottom hole. In most cases there will be a short tag end sticking through the bottom hole. Just bend that down and your support wire Is attached. I use a very stiff wire, but don't get something to stiff where It's brittle. Or that wire will snap off when your trying adjust It. You could heat It so It becomes softer. I have about 12" of wire to work with when I attach It to the whammy. I think my supports are about 18' long. And I only drive them into the ground about 3." You could use those 3/8s fiber glass fence posts. But since they are round they have a tendency to spin In the ground and they don't dive as well as steel. And the steel supports just bend over when the coyote Is running In circles. And you can easily bend the back to where they are pretty straight.
A caught deer will be gone because of the BAD whether caught by the leg or the neck + with the 3" stop any leg caught deer would be gone.
I held one deer last year by the neck and It was stone dead. No catch circle just laying there dead. But that's the only deer that was still there out of many years of hanging Crs. The guys that came up with these dimension's had their heads somewhere where the sun don't shine when they developed these CRs.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: backroadsarcher]
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11/28/18 09:45 PM
11/28/18 09:45 PM
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SkyeDancer
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Here in MN we have to use a ten inch loop. If the setting allows it, I Will lean a stick lacrosse and above the snare which fear will generally jump over. Now if I could keep me the out of my foot holds!
Last edited by SkyeDancer; 11/28/18 09:46 PM.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: SkyeDancer]
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11/28/18 10:06 PM
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Boone Liane
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Here in MN we have to use a ten inch loop. If the setting allows it, I Will lean a stick lacrosse and above the snare which fear will generally jump over. Now if I could keep me the out of my foot holds! I’d never recommend using a “jump” stick. Usually turns into a “dive” stick for fawns and yearlings.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: SkyeDancer]
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11/28/18 10:21 PM
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Boone Liane
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At 10 inches off the ground? I suppose it's possible, though haven't had it happen A 10” loop 10” off the ground is 20” high. Even adults will try to crawl under that. Most people would be amazed at what even adult deer will try to crawl under. One reason I NEVER set in barbwire fences.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: SkyeDancer]
#6384929
11/28/18 11:14 PM
11/28/18 11:14 PM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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Remember the original poster Is from WI and we can't set In entanglement.
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Re: Smallest loop size for coyotes?
[Re: wisconsinteacher]
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11/29/18 05:08 PM
11/29/18 05:08 PM
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Port Republic South Jersey
Newt
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Most------------------ deer will go under a snare set at 10" off the walking surface. Deer NOT spooked------------- when traveling carry their head low to the ground.
South Jersey Trapping and Snaring School January 17-18-19 2025 NEWT -----------------OVER---------------- www.snareone.com
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