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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6400326
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Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
I don't believe prior service is needed or relevant concerning having an opinion on military affairs.

Agreed, but I'm asking so I understand the perspective of those stating their opinion.

Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
That being said, if our congress did it's job by debating our 'wars'

Following the constitution is a novel idea. When was the last time congress actually declared war?

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400338
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December of 1941.
Which was, coincidentally, the last war or conflict we won.

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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400584
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War does not need to be declared for a president to use military action. Our founding fathers even used our military without congress declaring war.

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400601
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The Barbary wars were limited in scope, and short in duration. I don't believe a 17 YEAR 'war' in several countries on different continents are remotely close in comparison to the Barbary wars. Nice try tho.

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400639
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17 years is an embarrassment as is the way the government treats veterans. It is my understanding that the cia recommended charges in this case after a job interview/poly....I wonder if they offered him the job and it was a set up?

Another Green Beret was charged for smacking down an afgan officer who was raping young boys on a base...I believe he was acquitted in the end.




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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400640
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Been done many, many times.

Your last thread about resolutions is a hint.

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400765
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Resolutions?


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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400769
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Isnt that what war is? They kill as many of us as they can and we kill as many of them as we can. Whoever kills the most wins

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6400794
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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Pike River] #6400904
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Interesting exchange between Marty and Marlin.

Just so I can better understand perspective, have either one of you served active duty in the military? Mind sharing what, when and where?


I have not.

I have many close family and friends who have served.

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: joepennanti] #6401063
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Originally Posted by joepennanti
Trump 'to review' Mathew Golsteyn Afghan murder case
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46587185


That's interesting, maybe Trump can get involved and then the case gets tossed.


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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6401606
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Trump says he'll review murder case against ex-Army commando https://onenewsnow.com/ap/politics/trump-says-(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)-review-murder-case-against-ex-army-commando

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6401617
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We kill people all the time in war! For a whole lot less!! This guy was the expert on the ground if that means anything to anyone anymore?

I'd say it depends on what his orders were! If he had orders with a mission that gave him the leeway to identify and kill? Then all is fair in love and war! If he didn't and had orders or an sop that said otherwise? Then yeah, he is up the creek without the paddle!

Knowing the last administration I'd say the man killed Obama cousin or something?

Matter of law enforcement? Whatever!

Mission first!

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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6401626
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The right thing to do was to pat him on the back and say congratulations, you got that …….

Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6402044
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He should have got a medal.


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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6402059
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He should be given any leniency allowable. Decisions made during battle are very different than ones made in the comfort of our homes. I hope justice can be had with that understanding.


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Re: Green Beret Charged with murder. [Re: Marty] #6402273
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Shoot, Shovel and Shut up:rules of engagement like CFLIC are/were an eye opener. No one figured this war would go on and they dont want to call it a religious war and now they are looking at calling the Taliban a legitimate negotiating faction. Argue/discuss it all you want, there will be a point when you as an individual will make a call, you might want to be ready for it. Governments do not like it when when you assume responsibility for your actions, thats why the elite organizations have always been a little stand offish to the regular world. Just like civilians and the regular mil or conservative vs liberal.

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