Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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Do you experts find with more Cats in an area ....there are less fisher ? Will Cats push out fisher ( I think so ) . Bob Cats are protected here in NH....but Maine and Vermont have seasons . And our fisher season limit has been lowered to just 2 ....was 5 last year. Maybe our state is out of balance with Cats vs Fisher ? What do you think ?
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Re: Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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Both have increased on my line as the bush has aged. In this country Lynx as well as fisher start to use the bush around 25 to 35 years regrowth after a fire or clearcut.Marten quite a bit later.
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Re: Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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So what are the bobcat preying on? Turkey? Our hare population peaked two or three years ago with our grouse population being about average for these parts. It seems the bobcat population has exploded and there appears to be plenty of fisher around.
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Re: Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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I don't know the northern New England wildlife populations well but here in WI in the northern portion we have prey species such as snowshoes, muskrats, red and pine squirrels, whitetail deer, grouse, beaver, turkeys, geese, ducks that would make up the most of the normal prey species. One can add eggs, younger bear and young predators as well. Also domestics such as livestock and pets. The predators are wolves, coyotes, fisher, bobcat, mink, otter, black bear,fox and coon for the most part. Many of these predators have increased in their numbers and range. As the prey supply remains the same or even declines and we have more species of predators the number of each predator declines to match the available habitat. Some predators will be more successful than others and some are more cyclic than others.
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Re: Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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And lots of the smaller predators are scavengers also that depend heavily on larger predators like wolves,especially in late winter when wolves are more successful at killing large prey.Too many wolves are no good,but in balance they are an important part of a healthy boreal ecosystem.
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Re: Thoughts....Bob Cat and Fisher ?
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Both have increased on my line as the bush has aged. In this country Lynx as well as fisher start to use the bush around 25 to 35 years regrowth after a fire or clearcut.Marten quite a bit later. A lot like this here. In my area the spruce, poplars, aspen and the like are now harvested on a 20 year cycle for primarily glossy paper products so it’s not conducive to fisher or cats. If I find swamp edges with trees over 35 years old or so both species are doing fine sharing habitat. Osky
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