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Disposable stakes
 #6417456
 01/03/19 02:24 PM
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I don’t like leaving them but I don’t like carrying a heavy tool to remove them either.  For coon in a dogproof trap, what’s the minimum depth you go assuming there is no chance for entanglement?  Am looking at pogos and standard Berkshire stake ends. 
  Now, before anyone suggests 24–inches of t-bar or cross staking with 18-inch metal, I have heavy clay soil and I’ll be digging some out but pulling straight up for most. We’ve tried t-bars and 24-inch rebar and coon sometimes can work them out 
 
  
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: Teacher]
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 01/03/19 07:06 PM
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Thanks everyone. Jamie, I’ve folded a couple berks over the years. And left disposables in the ground too many times too. We may just have to go to 30 inch rebar and hope for the best 
 
  
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: ~ADC~]
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 01/03/19 08:32 PM
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If you pull those cheap berkshires plan on trying to bend them back into some shape to reuse them. They fold VERY easy.  That's why I went to the HD Berks AND I drive a stake on 2 or 3 sides about 1/2 way down, to loosen the soil prior to pulling.  
 
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: Teacher]
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 01/04/19 03:38 PM
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I use heavy duty berks for coyotes and on drowning cables. Both work well. But with the HD berks in tight soils, the tips bend about half the time and may break when being bent back. 
  Skydancer, when I am trapping coon, I’m moving traps every 8-10 days. At 100 plus and moving often, I gotta get ‘em out and keep moving. It looks like it’s going to be a lot of work whether pogos or stakes. But if the coon market comes back one of these years, I want to have the bestest, fastest system possible. 
 
  
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Re: Disposable stakes
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 01/04/19 04:14 PM
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If you pull those cheap berkshires plan on trying to bend them back into some shape to reuse them. They fold VERY easy.  That's what I like about them. You can even get them pulled out of my soil with a couple inches of frozen ground. I can pull almost all of them easily without problems. Once in a while for whatever reason you can't get them to budge so I just cut and go.  They aren't hard to bend back into shape. Just use a pair of pliers to bend back to somewhat of the original shape and it'll be good to use again. After you bend them back make sure you don't see any cracking around the loop that holds the cable. If so, don't use. You will only be able to drive and reuse about 3 times. After the 3rd time of pulling the stake end will bust away from cable.  
 
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Re: Disposable stakes
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 01/04/19 04:23 PM
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SkyeDancer
 
 
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I use heavy duty berks for coyotes and on drowning cables. Both work well. But with the HD berks in tight soils, the tips bend about half the time and may break when being bent back. 
  Skydancer, when I am trapping coon, I’m moving traps every 8-10 days. At 100 plus and moving often, I gotta get ‘em out and keep moving. It looks like it’s going to be a lot of work whether pogos or stakes. But if the coon market comes back one of these years, I want to have the bestest, fastest system possible. 
 
  Understood.  Let's hope coons come back!  
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
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 01/04/19 06:09 PM
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If you pull those cheap berkshires plan on trying to bend them back into some shape to reuse them. They fold VERY easy.  That's what I like about them. You can even get them pulled out of my soil with a couple inches of frozen ground. I can pull almost all of them easily without problems. Once in a while for whatever reason you can't get them to budge so I just cut and go.  They aren't hard to bend back into shape. Just use a pair of pliers to bend back to somewhat of the original shape and it'll be good to use again. After you bend them back make sure you don't see any cracking around the loop that holds the cable. If so, don't use. You will only be able to drive and reuse about 3 times. After the 3rd time of pulling the stake end will bust away from cable.  I agree - I just buy more anchors and reattach them to the cable. Gotta admit - I like 'em, but to each his own...  
 
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: Teacher]
 #6434992
 01/20/19 04:27 PM
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Bill,  I use 15" of cable and the Berkshire heavy duty disposables which are 7/8" x 3".  I also drill a cable size hole in the other end between the "V" and attach another 15" cable.  When it comes time to pull I push a t-bar through the loop of the added cable, pull up by hand which straightens out the disposable and they pop right out unless I hit a root or some immovable object.  When I originally started doing this, I thought an animal might grab the cable and pull it but I've never once had this happen.  I do this now on all my disposables on water or land.but run longer cables on the water sets. 
 
  
57 years trapping.  It's who I am.  Every day is still as exciting as it was when I was a kid but a little more work.
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: Teacher]
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 01/20/19 04:49 PM
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 Bison, South Dakota 
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I have pretty much switched everything thing over to this. Chain lays flat last forever and does not kink like cable. The chain retrieval cable makes em pull with little fuss. Your not dependent on a typical soil type to ensure they hold. They drive as easy as anything.
  If you cut the head off of a Harbor Frieght Jimmy bar you have a heat treated driver for 8.00 bucks
  God bless,
  Dustin  
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Re: Disposable stakes
[Re: Teacher]
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 01/20/19 06:10 PM
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Dustin, that is what I’m switching over to.  How do you keep the chain on the retrieval end from falling down the hole? Do you attach it to the chain that is attached to the trap? Or use something else? 
 
  
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Re: Disposable stakes
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 01/20/19 07:47 PM
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I have not done it yet but I was going to put a small pogo on the end of the retrieval chain to keep it from falling in the hole. It honestly has not cause that many issues without the pogo. You will love the system Rob.  In frozen soil just use your driver to make a pilot hole. Makes driving them in a lot easier.
  God bless  Dustin 
 
  
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