Again, that doesn't prove anything other than YOUR believe. So far, that's all there is.

No, the Christians rightly interpreted the Torah to prophesy about Christ and understood that he fulfilled all that Judaism stood for and the old laws were no longer needed. Do you know why Jews skip over Isaiah 53 when they read the Torah in synagogue?

And the people did what they thought was right for they had no king.

Do you believe some things are right and some are wrong? Why?

PAskinner that is the biggest load of bull posted in this entire thread. You are saying that because I do not believe in your deity it makes me a thief ??? I sure do not need or want a god to tell me whats right and wrong. My argument stands firm that treating people as one want to be treated works without the belief in a deity of any sort. War between religions on the other hand would not happen if you take religion out if that equation. Christians and Muslims have been beating the snot out of each other for millennia. And with the added user perversion of priests blessing the weapons used to kill the opposition.

To ad to that...... It looks like you need that belief in god, to stop you from running amok and I am happy for you that you have it.

Yes I do. Because of what was written before what you proclaim as God. I am a pagan, reckon.

Parents teach their kids what is right and wrong and their conscience is already made at a very young age. So if you were raised by cannibals you probably would not see any thing wrong with eating someone. After being born again the Holy Spirit will direct your conscience to what is right or wrong. The conscience is said to be the deputy to the soul.

The holy spirit is a late comer. Why is your God THE God, as a Johnny come lately?

PA Skinner Going by your logic I would not be surprised to see a pack of wolves in church on a Sunday as they have a pretty good social order without killing each other just to get what they can and then get out.

The people perish when they have no vision. There was no open vision during the period between testaments.

Dont need wolves when you have koolaid

I’m not a theologian, but there is a big difference between religious. Pagan, Judaism, Hindu, Buddhism, Islam, and Christianity. All other religions salvation is earned. Christianity it’s given free by God’s grace, no strings attached. Grace

What was the vision before the testaments, before the bible?

You mean unless you believe that Christ is your savior, that's not a string?

The Holy Sprit only resided in particular prophets in the old test. the (HE) Holy Spirit was from the begining. There has been many dispenstions. I am very tired and please dont thinjk this is a cop out. Iwill be glad to show you some finger prints of God. So in the mean time with any other questions list them. I wouldn't miss this for anything. Perhaps when I awake after my first nap I can try to answer more questions or it can wait til the morrow.

Hadnt seen the string thing, but that is where I'm headed. Later

Sleep well Foxpaw!

I already responded to this by saying; Is there another religion where the shepard dies for the sheep?

Does this meet the single concept you are looking for?

I see no need to be trying to discuss something starting near the end to compare our similarities. So lets start at the beginning, do you beleive the world was created from nothing or did it just evolve from nothing.