Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I figured by the time I pass all my organs will be out of date.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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With no brain function, there is no pain. I assumed all this this was common knowledge? I hope they use all mine. How do you know this for sure? You believe there is no pain but unless you have been there, I doubt you can say that for certain. I guess you can believe the doctors if you want. I choose to believe they are far from 100% correct most if not all the time. Pain is a sense that's created in the brain. That's not an opinion, it's a known fact. To feel pain, you MUST have a functioning brain.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I made an anatomical donation to a medical school. They want all the body parts. I was signed up as an organ donor, but when I donated my body to the medical I had to rescind the organ donation.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I'm not allowed to be an organ donor because of all my medical problems. So most of my body is going to a med school.
My wife is good friends with our former county coroner and has watched organ harvesting take place. She said it was pretty neat to watch for the most part.
The coroner is also a funeral director/mortician and he told her she could donate any organ she wanted to, but if she was coming to his funeral home not to donate her bones. He said they're a PITA to get to look correct, and position right because they use pvc to fill in for the bones.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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Finster, Who the heck are we to whine with all the dispatch methods we justify and say they are humane, wait till PETA gets a hold of that video. I guess if it the last thing I experience it should be exciting. Many believe it is never over a lot of different views, may I suggest the Lees Death Ray as an appetizer. If you really want an eye opener read the book "Stiff" Off on a tangent much? Who's whining? I'm saying that I probably don't want to be dissected if there is a possibility I am going to feel every slash, yank and pull. (at least for awhile) Whatever that has to do with dispatching an animal in a trap, PETA or Lees death ray is a bit of a leap.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I am not an organ donor. From my research, you're much more likely to be declared brain dead more quickly, if you're an organ donor, than if you're not. Doctors want to save people by parting out your organs and there is a huge financial incentive for doctors and hospitals to part you out as well.
In the event that you end up in a situation where your organs could be harvested, if you're not an organ donor, you're family will be asked to donate your organs. I would much rather have a family member make that informed decision, than some doctor, who I most likely have never met, whose motivations I do not know.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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Pain is a sense that's created in the brain. That's not an opinion, it's a known fact. To feel pain, you MUST have a functioning brain.
Guess that explains my pain tolerance,........
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I would like to know why some people would not want to be an organ donor? What do you plan on doing with them later anyway? A friend of mine want be an organ donor. His reasoning is this. He gives his organs away for free. The hospital and doctors profit tremendously off of his free donation. The person receiving such organs gets charged a tremendous amount which could lead to financial hardship. All this is done and the donor doesn't even receive a simple pine box to rest in. That's his reasoning.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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My wife was an organ donor. She had a seizure disorder and was in a coma twice.
Coma 1: She received substandard medical care. 3 times they told me she was dying, was brain dead, and would wake up a mental vegetable and asked me to sign a do not resuscitate order. They brought in hospital administrators to try to convince me. I hired an expert board certified neurologist to come in to supervise her care. She woke up after 8 days and recovered with no brain damage.
We suspected the organ donor status may have been at issue. She immediately cancelled to organ donor permission.
Coma 2: This was about a year later. Same hospital. She received excellent medical care. They never once told me that she was brain dead. They never mentioned a do not resuscitate order. She woke up after 5 days with some memory loss. For the next year I worked with her to help restore her memory.
The average organ donor is worth 1 million dollars to the hospital. I had a friend who has his own high performance twin engine airplane. He volunteered to fly hearts for organ recipients. The organization reimbursed him for fuel. When he learned how much profit is made by everybody in the system, he quit.
My father had kidney failure and was getting dialysis. He went to a meeting at the hospital about donor kidneys. The cost was $350,000 up front and insurance does not pay. If I would have donated a kidney, my insurance would not pay for an elective and not medically necessary surgery. Next, I would lose my insurance because I would now be a high risk person. It would be nearly impossible to ever again get health insurance.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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Soo is the point of this that Finster is skeered of pain?? Come on ya sally.
I’m a donor. Don’t plan on needing them after.
However, Willy’s story is enough to give pause. I wish there were a way to donate through a non-for-profit, to remove that concern.
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Re: Are you an organ donor ?
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I would like to know why some people would not want to be an organ donor? What do you plan on doing with them later anyway? A friend of mine want be an organ donor. His reasoning is this. He gives his organs away for free. The hospital and doctors profit tremendously off of his free donation. The person receiving such organs gets charged a tremendous amount which could lead to financial hardship. All this is done and the donor doesn't even receive a simple pine box to rest in. That's his reasoning. Your friend doesn't know how organ donation works then if he thinks the donor doesn't get a "simple pine box to rest in." Most "harvesting" of organs is done right at the hospital the patient is taken to, or closest to. Once the harvesting is complete then the body is released to the family or funeral home. He may mistaking donating organs for donating his body to a medical school. Even then they are usually cremated and either buried or given to the family. My BIL's mom donated her body for cancer research purposes. A few weeks after her passing the family got her ashes.
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