Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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02/10/19 08:27 PM
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True but that refund amount started in January at 0.00 and ended the year at a couple grand. With interest rates as they are, I only missed out on a few bucks in lost interest.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
[Re: lureintheanimal]
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Ours went down by $150, but that's because $150 less was taken out of my income, which was the same as last year's. So... we broke even.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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Call me stupid, but when did other people become entitled to the fruits of my labor? Some have called it slavery and revolted. I guess we are not that bright.
Tell me what the difference is between slavery... of the old days,, vs
If you don't vol·un·tar·i·ly have over a percentage of the fruits of your labor, you get jailed, and probably raped in jail. I don't even think the slave owners of old abused disobedient slaves that much.
And where does our money stolen from us go? To pay the wages of gov workers, who hardly work, and those who don't work at all.
Excuse me if I insult anyone, but I think we are playing a fools game.
Some people on assistance get $200 a day free rehab in their home. $200 a day house cleaning service. Free transportation to and from Methadone clinics. $ to stay in school. $ to go to the dr to buy drugs so they can resell them. I've talked to upper income gov workers who say they would probably be better off on welfare.
I've known women on welfare who get their "mustache" hairs removed for free. They get free furnaces, hot water tanks, and insulation in their homes!
If I came up and took $ out of your pocket you would probably hit me.
But it seems we are so stupid, if we put a couple feigns in between the theft, call it "taxes", well... we accept that.
I'm sorry, but my dog is smarter than most of us, he fights for his bone, we........ roll over and just let anyone else have our "fruits"
Comments anyone? Can't argue with that. Democrats want everything you have..except your job.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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For example: As self employed one can deduct as a business expense health insurance that you buy for yourself and family. However, one cannot expense actual medical costs as a business cost. Why?
If self employed you can not deduct the full cost of health insurance. You can get a credit that shows up on your 1040 but not what your premiums cost. If you are self employed you can hire your wife as an employee and put the health insurance in her name and then you can deduct the health care cost as a business expense. You could always put medical expenses on the Schedule A subject to AGI if you itemized deductions. Not much of that anymore for most. As to taxes being deductions. State income taxes paid and real estate taxes paid have been deductions for federal taxes for decades. Now those are capped. I was talking to my friend who is a enrolled agent and is selling his business. He works with up to 200 clients. The guy buying his firm is tickled pink as he will be able to charge about 10-20% more for the average filer just to cover the extra forms etc. My friend is glad too as this means his transaction or selling is much more likely to be successful for the new owner.
Bryce line 29 1040 Adjusted Gross Income "1. Enter the total amount paid in 2018 for health insurance coverage established under your business (or the S corporation in which you were a more-than-2% shareholder) for 2018 for you, your spouse, and your dependents. Your insurance also can cover your child who was under age 27 at the end of 2018, even if the child wasn't your dependent. But don’t include amounts for any month you were eligible to participate in an employer-sponsored health plan or amounts paid from retirement plan distributions that were nontaxable because you are a retired public safety officer 1. 2. Enter your net profit* and any other earned income** from the business under which the insurance plan is established, minus any deductions on Schedule 1, lines 27 and 28. Don’t include Conservation Reserve Program payments exempt from self-employment tax 2. 3. Self-employed health insurance deduction. Enter the smaller of line 1 or line 2 here and on Schedule 1, line 29. Don’t include this amount in figuring any medical expense deduction on Schedule A"
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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02/10/19 08:54 PM
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I’m a finance professional with a masters. I completely understand what happened and a tax professional won’t change the outcome. Dollar for dollar earned, I paid a higher tax rate. Was that because of lost deductions ? Or not being able to itemize? Just asking not trying to pick a fight.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
[Re: lureintheanimal]
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In my opinion Vegasjim you hit on the head why the vast majority feel they are paying more taxes and getting smaller returns. Bottom line is the average person with a W2 wage of less than 70K will be paying less taxes. Want to see higher taxes vote some more democratic politicians in office.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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If your properties generate income, then the real estate taxes will be deductible.
For 2019 things are going to be a whole lot different. Several businesses and a church. Two can play that game, Trump.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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If your properties generate income, then the real estate taxes will be deductible.
For 2019 things are going to be a whole lot different. Several businesses and a church. Two can play that game, Trump. Why are you upset with trump and not your state legislature that is charging unreasonable high property taxes ?
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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Why are you upset with trump and not your state legislature that is charging unreasonable high property taxes ?
Trump unilaterally changed the rules, not the state (county). Of course, the result is that both will see less revenue.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
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Why are you upset with trump and not your state legislature that is charging unreasonable high property taxes ?
Trump unilaterally changed the rules, not the state (county). Of course, the result is that both will see less revenue. The atate didn't xhange anything they are still getting a big chunk of your money in exchange for what? Yes trump changed the deduction amounts and capped them at a certain leval for every citizen. Only those hurt live in high tax states and pay large sums then want to take that amount off their federal taxes and spread out the dept. Why ahould i living in nevada pay for upgrades to sewers roads or anything else in another state due to these property tax deductions? Heck couldn't stand it when my state wants to raise taxes so the can do mass transit improvements in vegas or reno.
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Re: Folks Not Very Happy About There Tax Refund Check
[Re: lureintheanimal]
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Thanks for all the roads and stuff nvwrangler. We're sure going to miss you.
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