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Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: Billfrank] #646578
03/23/08 08:23 PM
03/23/08 08:23 PM
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I have always used aged red fox glands for most of my lures. I dont even make a coyote gland lure because I cant keep em' out of my fox sets as it is. From my exp and what I have seen a fox gland based predator lure makes a better "all round" canine lure than a coyote gland based lure. Now thats for me, and several folks Ive talked too. I like mine aged and mellow so I have a consistant product. Not one that is drastically changing its odor with time.


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Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: KYBOY] #646596
03/23/08 08:28 PM
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Great post. I agree with KYboy though and have had better luck using red fox gland lure for fox, cats, coyotes than I have with coyote gland lure.


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Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: Jtrapper] #646935
03/23/08 11:21 PM
03/23/08 11:21 PM
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KYBOY.. I agree that red fox glands make a good universal base or addition to a predator lure. Everyone seems to have a favorite lure. The fresh vs. aged gland debate will go on long after we are gone.

Like Paul said, "keep an open mind". I say never be afraid to make a change just because something IS working for you. This has been a good post and insight from noted lure makers.

The input that others put into post like this one, also help me as a lure maker to rethink and try other things to make a better product. I can't trap across the country anymore and I do believe that some lures are more area specific (sp?) than others.
Great posts guys!!!!!

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: High Noon] #646980
03/23/08 11:47 PM
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Fox gland lure might be less threatening to a young coyote than a boss dog scent. Some young coyotes seem to shy from my territorial sets, but not dirt holes. Calling coyotes you don't want to scare the young wandering ones with a bossy coyote sound.T.20

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: ] #647186
03/24/08 08:13 AM
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I too prefer a good red fox gland to a coyote gland. But am curious about a "Good" gray fox gland and its use. JC Conners red fox gland really puts up the numbers on my 'line. Good "foxy" odor to it. But like Tactical20 mention a good change up can do wonders on the predators.

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: MChewk] #647490
03/24/08 12:20 PM
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For 30 years during Michigan's bounty era I lured every set with coyote lures and coyote urine because coyotes bounty was worth $20.00 and fox as well as bobcat brought only a $5.00 bounty. I can honestly say that in all of those years I don't recall seeing evidence by tracks in the sand or snow that even one red fox or one bobcat ever avoided or walked by a set because it was lured with coyote gland/urine odors. As for red fox gland/urine vs coyote gland/urine, if there is any difference in their attraction to one another species I was never able to detect it in years of testing and personal experience. Ace

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: Asa Lenon] #647519
03/24/08 12:37 PM
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Is there a good book out there for a person that has never made lure before? I've always just bought my lures because it was easier, especially time wise. But, I think it would be fun to play around with making my own just as another part of the trapping experience. I'm just looking for something to give me the basics to start with for now.

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: Ricky Cox] #647614
03/24/08 01:42 PM
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I believe there are at least two books on lure making, Nick Wyshinski and Russ Carman. I have never read Carman's book but have a copy of Wyshinski's and would recommend it for a beginner. One will become familiarized with most basic ingredients and applications, fixatives and preservatives as well as ageing, etc from the Wyshinski book. Ace

Re: Coyote Gland Lure [Re: Asa Lenon] #647702
03/24/08 02:46 PM
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Thanks for the information Ace.

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