Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
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03/03/19 03:11 PM
03/03/19 03:11 PM
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Joined: Aug 2010
PA
PAskinner
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PA
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#1 coilsprings. The northwoods #1 was supposed to be "the" coon trap for awhile there. I caught coon in them, but had too many pullouts and they are hard to bed solid. #11's are 100 percent better, IMO. I had a bunch of #1 jumps I got cheap once too. They caught stuff, but too many sprung. Sold them and found better water traps. These days I'd just as soon have a 1.5 or 1.75 if I'm using a foothold for mink or muskrat. Also don't care much for 110s for muskrats anymore either. The have their place, but 160s are better in most instances. And those old 110 Victors where never much for strength. I want a bodygripper that takes them right to the bottom fast.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6479680
03/03/19 03:46 PM
03/03/19 03:46 PM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
Teacher
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Rochester, MN
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I started with Victor 11/2 longsprings after seeing a Disney movie where they caught ermine in them. Those stayed as I built up my collection but got sold or stolen over a period of 10 years. Next, I got into the trap of choice for fox, which was the #2 victor coil, but I never caught any fox and they were lousy for coon. Sold them when I went into the Navy.
In the 80s, Tom Krause was suggesting the 1 1/2 coil was a better fox trap and I could afford them (and I was starting to catch fox) so I bought lots of them. In 1995 I toyed with becoming a Buddhist and sold everything except my cages. In 1996, I stopped that line of thought as my farming friends called until the phone fell off the wall. This time I bought lots 220s, 1 1/2 coils, and some #11 dbl Kong’s after rereading Bob Noonan’s articles and egg traps.
Got rid of the 220s when I thought MN would ban them (but I got 160s and like them better).
Got rid of the # 11s because I was missing too many coon. The 1 1/2 coils were better—I felt.
Got rid of the eggs after 5-6 years. Bought some Griz and some Duke DPs
My new trapping buddy was using ztraps. I had a couple Zs at the time and a bunch of the Duke and Griz that I was liking, so together, we invested in Zs for our combined line.
I also started making a few dollars on coyotes. The #2 Montgomeries didn’t do it for me. Nor did the Montana #2. Both got sold. But, I got a deal on #3 Montana’s and my partner uses 550s exclusively. Those are what I use for canines now. I don’t think I’ll be selling either of these any time soon
Last edited by Teacher; 03/03/19 03:49 PM. Reason: Added another thought
Never too old to learn
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6479696
03/03/19 04:06 PM
03/03/19 04:06 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
central arkansas
the Blak Spot
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central arkansas
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I went from coils to longsprings and jumps. Love the #2 jumps for mink! Never lost a yote in a 3 long
the just shall live by faith
member FTA, ATA, EAFT 1776 - the year we told a tyrant we weren't to be under a dictator Caveat ater macula
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6479742
03/03/19 04:50 PM
03/03/19 04:50 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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Garden,Michigan
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The original 1.75 victors made by the old woodstream corp..They took the trapping world by storm in the early '80's as a multi purpose predator trap.I had a few friends who swore by them,and I guess if you ran a couple of traps before work they were all right.Running them all day was another story.I'm not saying I didn't catch coyotes in them,I did,but I had a collection of them too that the jaws were yanked out of the frames.Paw damage on reds were unacceptable.Bought a bunch of Northwoods 1.75's they were supposed to be beefier,and they were,but I had the same problem with trap damage,although I can't ever remember having the jaws yanked out like the victors.Bent pans,bent spring levers,spring pins backed almost all the way out.I didn't have those problems with my 11/2 round jawed Montgomerys!I saw in a couple of publications guys who were paying attention to the catch to loss ratio on these traps ran 60% held to 40% loss(If I remember correctly Charles Dobbins wrote on this) and that's about par for my experience to.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: the Blak Spot]
#6479879
03/03/19 07:27 PM
03/03/19 07:27 PM
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GA
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GA
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I went from coils to longsprings and jumps. Love the #2 jumps for mink! Never lost a yote in a 3 long What kind of 3 longs? I've always used coilsprings exclusively but I just got 3 Sleepy Creek #3 DLS to try. They are so different from what I'm used to, I hated them at first. I'm probably going to try them though to give them a fair chance, maybe I'll end up liking them. They definitely take some getting used to!
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6479906
03/03/19 08:00 PM
03/03/19 08:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
MO
cfowler
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MO
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I like a lot of the older traps as users. The 3N is a favorite of mine because of the cast offset jaws. It's what I imagine a 550 would be in a long-spring. I also like the old double jaw #1 and #1.5 longs for muskrats, I've got them in Diamond, Triumph, True Value, maybe another. All just user quality. Still strong, still catching fur. I tried some #3 Victor sq jaw coils, with inner laminations and music wire springs, this season. Liked them as an exposed blind trail set trap. There's a lot of good older traps out there in my opinion.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6480236
03/04/19 08:31 AM
03/04/19 08:31 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010
central arkansas
the Blak Spot
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central arkansas
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Canebrake, i use mostly 3 victors, but i have some 3 sleepy creeks i use also. They work very well.
the just shall live by faith
member FTA, ATA, EAFT 1776 - the year we told a tyrant we weren't to be under a dictator Caveat ater macula
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Re: My trap transitions through the years.
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6480323
03/04/19 10:20 AM
03/04/19 10:20 AM
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Joined: Sep 2012
NY
rendezvous
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NY
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My Uncle gave me a Gibbs Two Trigger Trap and it just grabbed my imagination on trapping... I then really started trapping with a dozen Victor 1-1/2 coil springs and managed to pick up a few 110's. After watching the series Centennial, I ran out and bought three 330's, 2 No.4 Jump Traps, 3 Victor No.3 coil spring. And to be a Mountain Man, 1 No.4 Newhouse double long spring! After that a lot of hodgepodge array of traps have been picked up over the years, I did buy a dozen Victor No. 1 coil springs and No. 1 stop loss long springs. Recently a dozen Z-traps, 24 Bridger 155's and 19 MB550's. I also have a small collection of some older traps, the Gibbs Two Trigger my Uncle gave me is the most precious trap of the collection... By the way, those Victor 1-1/2 coil springs I bought over some 40 years ago, still using them. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/7UQOL2Ih.png)
Last edited by rendezvous; 03/04/19 10:34 AM.
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