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To hide your canine sets or not hide them? #6487951 03/11/19 02:04 PM 03/11/19 02:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID G Grandpa Trapper OP trapper
Grandpa Trapper OP trapper G Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID	I trap a lot of public land. I know some of you trappers like to try to hide your sets maybe behind a bush or set a number of feet from the two track roads. Mark June in one of his dvds said that he will set no more than 6 feet from a road or trail even if it means losing some fur. Apparently, he feels that if you set any farther you will lose more fur with less chance of the coyote visiting the set. I use drags a lot but mostly to get the critter away from the set and not to hide the catch. I also tried the slide cables but it is more work. Your thoughts and what do you do when trapping in these type of areas. An old man roaming the Rockies

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487990 03/11/19 03:18 PM 03/11/19 03:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Southern Nevada C cat_trapper_nv "Cat Master"
cat_trapper_nv "Cat Master" C Joined: Feb 2013 Southern Nevada	That’s a tough one. I trapped just over a hill from a 2 track when I lived in Idaho. One check I had a stick in both sets I had made so I pulled them and hiked back aways. It was about 30 min from the time I left the truck, till I started heading back. While making sets I heard ATVs driving down the 2 track which isn’t anything out of the ordinary on a Saturday. Got back to my truck and headed to the main rd. All of a sudden all my indicators on my dash go off and my truck locks up. I try starting it back up but don’t get anything but a load clunk. Pop the hood, check the oil, and it’s empty. Call my cousin who brings me 5 quarts, and I hear dripping under my truck as I pour the oil in. No oil plug. That’s when it hits me, someone loosened my oil plug. Called the Sheriff and he followed my cousin and I to where I mad those sets. Sure enough you could see where someone stepped off their ATV (wet sand), and slid under my truck. Good thing I got good overage on my insurance because I got the motor replaced and only had to pay a $500 deductible. So if you do set close and find someone doesn’t like you there, don’t leave your truck unattended If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488395 03/11/19 11:27 PM 03/11/19 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 SWMo. T tjm trapper
tjm trapper T Joined: Nov 2011 SWMo.	I want all my sets within 3-5' of where the animal will already be- no one has a lure that works better than location. 6' off location is off location, period. I also make every set so unnoticeable that I have stood next to one and conversed with a passerby on a few occasions, they never knew it was there. Once the catch is made, there really is no way to hide, so early morning checks are in order. I am legal on the public property that I trap and they would be breaking a law if they tampered with my traps but why borrow trouble? It doesn't hurt to have the warden and the sheriff on speed dial, just in case.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6488407 03/12/19 12:02 AM 03/12/19 12:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2014 N.C MO T TONY.F trapper
TONY.F trapper T Joined: Mar 2014 N.C MO	Originally Posted by cat_trapper_nv Thats a tough one. I trapped just over a hill from a 2 track when I lived in Idaho. One check I had a stick in both sets I had made so I pulled them and hiked back aways. It was about 30 min from the time I left the truck, till I started heading back. While making sets I heard ATVs driving down the 2 track which isnt anything out of the ordinary on a Saturday. Got back to my truck and headed to the main rd. All of a sudden all my indicators on my dash go off and my truck locks up. I try starting it back up but dont get anything but a load clunk. Pop the hood, check the oil, and its empty. Call my cousin who brings me 5 quarts, and I hear dripping under my truck as I pour the oil in. No oil plug. Thats when it hits me, someone loosened my oil plug. Called the Sheriff and he followed my cousin and I to where I mad those sets. Sure enough you could see where someone stepped off their ATV (wet sand), and slid under my truck. Good thing I got good overage on my insurance because I got the motor replaced and only had to pay a $500 deductible. So if you do set close and find someone doesnt like you there, dont leave your truck unattended or park on top of a bear trap then they will have a good reason to dislike trappers LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488475 03/12/19 06:20 AM 03/12/19 06:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 De C coop trapper
coop trapper C Joined: Dec 2006 De	Yep, right along the 2 track or farm lane... maybe 2-3' back to mostly fox keep the spin circle out of the road depending on where I'm at... 6' or a little more I just squirt a shot of urine from the set to the road edge... just squeeze the squirt bottle and fling it, not a steady stream.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488486 03/12/19 06:48 AM 03/12/19 06:48 AM
Joined: Jul 2012 Nebraska WadeRyan trapper
WadeRyan trapper Joined: Jul 2012 Nebraska	The snow told a pretty good story this year. Places I would have never imagined coyotes traveling it was very apparent they were traveling and a lot of times there were multiple coyotes traveling these areas. Unfortunately I found that a good majority of them were in straight view of the general public, and if you moved off this route the numbers of coyotes visiting these areas would decrease. For example at one place where a t-intersection hit another road there were 6-7 sets of tracks crossing the road. More than 50 feet into the section the coyotes went all different directions. Where I typically would set that section the number of tracks was down to one set and they weren't close to where I would normally set. The solution I decided I was going to catch coyotes. A couple of these were caught by Matt on our vacation line, but the location is the key. The weather made us trap like this for the most part. In the middle of sections we were busting drifts up to the doors most days. Follow me on YouTube if you’re bored https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Ulx1woYMmCN3IPLB0wwFw

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488526 03/12/19 08:24 AM 03/12/19 08:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Pennsylvania C coalbank trapper
coalbank trapper C Joined: Mar 2009 Pennsylvania	Doesn't always work out but, getting to the most exposed sets early works well here. Had a friend along one day, his comment was that several of the sets were very exposed to public view.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488533 03/12/19 08:34 AM 03/12/19 08:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Pa	Hi guys, this was my reply on drags post. I don't use drags often but they sure do have their place. I can some what steer the direction of departure with an angled stick driven into the ground, pointed the way I want him to go. Hook the drag so it will only slip off one way. One spot I use this is where I don't want him to go up, down, or across the road. Another is where I want him down over the edge. The words never or always do not apply here.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488551 03/12/19 08:56 AM 03/12/19 08:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il G Golf ball trapper
Golf ball trapper G Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il	WB that is a well known trappers method of putting them where he wants them . He used a piece of 3/8” rebar driven at an angle and the top pointed in the direction he wants the coyote to travel . He uses this to put said coyote in the brush or on to ground where he has access.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488561 03/12/19 09:07 AM 03/12/19 09:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Pa	I was told of this by a no name trapper probably 30 some years ago. I had not read of it on the net but I have not yet finished the internet lol. Doesn't hurt to reinvent common sense. Asa talked of burying the drag under the trap, I have not done that. Lots of ways to skin the cat.

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488607 03/12/19 10:08 AM 03/12/19 10:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il G Golf ball trapper
Golf ball trapper G Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il	Yea buddy even the big names learned some things from other people ! I’ve not got much use for a drag here in corn country but thought it was a very ingenious way to move a coyote in the direction where you wanted him .

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488705 03/12/19 11:52 AM 03/12/19 11:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin	I have used that system but It pretty much only works when you have brush close by. If that brush Is 100s of yards away It's a toss up In what direction the coyote Is going to go. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Golf ball] #6488840 03/12/19 03:08 PM 03/12/19 03:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID G Grandpa Trapper OP trapper
Grandpa Trapper OP trapper G Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID	Originally Posted by Wright Brothers Hi guys, this was my reply on drags post. I don't use drags often but they sure do have their place. I can some what steer the direction of departure with an angled stick driven into the ground, pointed the way I want him to go. Hook the drag so it will only slip off one way. One spot I use this is where I don't want him to go up, down, or across the road. Another is where I want him down over the edge. The words never or always do not apply here. Originally Posted by Golf ball WB that is a well known trappers method of putting them where he wants them . He used a piece of 3/8” rebar driven at an angle and the top pointed in the direction he wants the coyote to travel . He uses this to put said coyote in the brush or on to ground where he has access. Excuse my naivety guys, but I don’t quite understand how the stick or rebar will steer the critter in the right direction. If I have a drag with a 10 foot chain and place the drag itself 10 foot behind the buried trap and I want the caught animal to also travel to the rear of the trap set, where do you place the stick and how far from the set? How does placing the stick at an angle help accomplish this? An old man roaming the Rockies

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488849 03/12/19 03:25 PM 03/12/19 03:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il G Golf ball trapper
Golf ball trapper G Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il	The drag will only come off the stick or rebar in the direction they are pointed . Drive the rebar pointed north at about a 30 degree angle and the drag can only come off if the coyote pulls to the north .

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Golf ball] #6488883 03/12/19 04:26 PM 03/12/19 04:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID G Grandpa Trapper OP trapper
Grandpa Trapper OP trapper G Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID	Originally Posted by Golf ball The drag will only come off the stick or rebar in the direction they are pointed . Drive the rebar pointed north at about a 30 degree angle and the drag can only come off if the coyote pulls to the north . Thanks. Got it. An old man roaming the Rockies

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488918 03/12/19 05:21 PM 03/12/19 05:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Wisconsin	And Like I said that's only for a few yards then the coyotes goes where It wants to go. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488948 03/12/19 05:57 PM 03/12/19 05:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID G Grandpa Trapper OP trapper
Grandpa Trapper OP trapper G Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID	Do you guys find that when a coyote is on a drag, it goes into the thicker cover or have you had any travel down the two track road after caught? I usually hook my drags to a thick shrub but it only gets it away a few feet from the set for the chain to tangle up but usually not from public view. An old man roaming the Rockies

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488956 03/12/19 06:00 PM 03/12/19 06:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID G Grandpa Trapper OP trapper
Grandpa Trapper OP trapper G Joined: Nov 2011 Idaho Falls, ID	I just read the other thread about drags. An old man roaming the Rockies

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6489430 03/13/19 08:00 AM 03/13/19 08:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2018 Buggs Island, Va lonewolf308 trapper
lonewolf308 trapper Joined: Dec 2018 Buggs Island, Va	This was my first year trapping and I exclusively trap on public lands. Luckily, for me after the last day of deer season (first week of January) there isn't a hunter in sight. I do run into the occasional hiker who acts like I'm the weird one walking in the woods in Jan. I only set coyote sets for a week this year, but all the fields and sign are within walking distance and are on trails. I am worried myself about what will happen when I check my traps late and a hiker or wildlife worker runs upon a coyote/fox chilling at the edge of a field in my trap. I will have to deal with it on a case by case basis. I'd hope they would have the respect to leave it alone. As far as my traps I doubt anyone would find them unless attached to a animal. IMO if your dog gets caught in my trap that's on you! Public hunting land is just that, if you want to walk your dog go to a park. VTA member

Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6489638 03/13/19 11:43 AM 03/13/19 11:43 AM
Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL E ebsurveyor trapper
ebsurveyor trapper E Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL	I'm glad I trap in the east after reading these posts. My coyote sets are all on the edge of roads on timber land open to everyone. In the past nine years I have had a few traps driven on & about a dozen coyotes shot. To date nothing has been stolen.

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