Re: Shock Springs
[Re: canebrake]
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03/15/19 07:32 PM
03/15/19 07:32 PM
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Canebrake I was tring to get a handle on reason the 650 was in conversation is all.
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Yes sir]
#6491989
03/15/19 10:12 PM
03/15/19 10:12 PM
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Tailhunter
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There's better ways to add more fur to your end of year pics than shock springs IMHO Why does this forum not have a like button?
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Tailhunter]
#6492063
03/15/19 11:47 PM
03/15/19 11:47 PM
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There's better ways to add more fur to your end of year pics than shock springs IMHO Why does this forum not have a like button? Wondered that myself lol
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492099
03/16/19 12:31 AM
03/16/19 12:31 AM
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TONY.F
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I go the cheap route and add stop shock springs to all my yote traps I personally think it wears them down faster. a tired animal don't fight as hard.Its the same concept as the flex on a fishing pole. And I care about the over all health of any critter ive caught! If I choose to release it im certain it wont run out of sight then die from internal injurys
LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492217
03/16/19 08:57 AM
03/16/19 08:57 AM
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The Savage
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I run them and I like them, but they get plugged with mud and then you have a big chain link when it freezes. i'm probably in the minority, but I don't want to "kill em all" . If I catch one that is rubbed, or has been injured in a fight, I let them go. I run jakes, and they all have JC's shock spring. Oh, my chain set up is 3 ft long total, so normally about 18 to 24 inches above the ground when the earth anchor is buried .
My friends call me "The Savage"
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492262
03/16/19 09:55 AM
03/16/19 09:55 AM
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TONY.F
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im not to concerned with a yote but if I catch a red I like the option of knowing it can be released without it ending up killed by yotes.I firmly believe they can and do save shoulders
LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: ADK95]
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03/16/19 04:12 PM
03/16/19 04:12 PM
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silkyplainscoyot
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Whether or not a shock spring would really add much in regards to catches, I don't know. But I think there is a lot to be said for a person who takes good care of the critters they're trapping. IMO if adding shock springs to all of my traps prevents just one busted shoulder, they're a worthwhile addition. I've trapped a lot of coyotes but have never observed one that broke it's shoulder from being trapped. I don't run long chains or long extended checks so I'm not saying it can't or won't ever happen. But I would like to see statistics (actual evidence) from necropsies or other trusted means that it's causing major damage to their shoulders. Sure there could be some bruising or soreness but nothing life altering to them. Unless I'm provided with good evidence from testing with various lengths of chain I see no need to outfit every trap of mine with one. They may have there place in certain situations that you deal with and if they make you feel better then go ahead and use them.
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: silkyplainscoyot]
#6492581
03/16/19 04:49 PM
03/16/19 04:49 PM
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Pad Catch
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I have not viewed shock springs as much as a shoulder saver but more as an aid in retaining toe caught coyotes. I am also skeptical about the actual evidence that shoulders are torn up without shock springs
Living the Dream, One Fur at a Time.
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
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03/16/19 05:22 PM
03/16/19 05:22 PM
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silkyplainscoyot
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I have not viewed shock springs as much as a shoulder saver but more as an aid in retaining toe caught coyotes. I am also skeptical about the actual evidence that shoulders are torn up without shock springs If it were I, I would take the advice of others who mentioned putting the money into good equipment instead holding that occasional toe caught coyote. I haven't had a lot of toe catches but with my equipment the ones that I've had were still there the majority of the time. Sure I've lost few over the years due to toe catches but I'm not sure if a shock spring would of helped in those situations or not.
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492619
03/16/19 05:41 PM
03/16/19 05:41 PM
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I ll get toe catch every once in a while also. But when I do ,,,, I look on it as my mistake, poor guiding ,not enough tension. Or a weak springs on a trap . Or other odd reason. I think some of this can be contributed to the freeze thaw cycle between nite and day slowing trap down. Nothing is 100 % just some more to think about.
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492639
03/16/19 06:10 PM
03/16/19 06:10 PM
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Posts: 10,155 Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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I started with a smaller size trap with a large pan and had toe catches frequently but switched to a #3 size trap mostly and pretty much most all of the toe catches went away. Still use the smaller trap some if I run out of clean traps and when do I they still get a higher percentage of toe catches than I like. With that I think I may put a little more dirt covering over my traps than some which may be a contributing factor. Just me experience.
This is targeting coyotes.
Last edited by Yes sir; 03/16/19 06:12 PM.
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Re: Shock Springs
[Re: Pad Catch]
#6492655
03/16/19 06:37 PM
03/16/19 06:37 PM
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Wright Brothers
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We read on here all the time that a 4 coil trap dose not freeze as fast as a 2coil. If I add a shock spring (5coil) will that extra stored spring energy keep my sets even more unthawed? My experience of one shock spring is, a coon ate it lol. I figure my sample of one is about the same as none. We can listen to those that use em, listen to those with no experience, or try the dang things, crap there just traps.
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