Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: BillyTraps]
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03/21/19 10:38 PM
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Yes sir
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With $100 coyotes I work for the numbers...in a depredation situation I work for the last one. So the answer is aspire to do BOTH Billy which one do toy take more pride in, out of curiosity?
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: Yes sir]
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03/21/19 11:47 PM
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Catch all you can. Coyotes, cockroaches and magpies will be the last to go.
I can't believe that cop put me in the back seat when I clearly called shotgun.
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: Yes sir]
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03/22/19 06:40 AM
03/22/19 06:40 AM
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John Houben
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Just for grins and giggles let me "stir the pot." . . . No one and I mean NO ONE, catches the last one (coyote). When things work out you might bust a whole family group, but most of the time you don't. If the the very best trappers out there could catch the "last one" how could trappers like O'Gorman trap for a lifetime in the same county?
Bottomline is that coyotes move around on the landscape so much that any void one creates is filled in in a matter of days during most of the year and within months during the summer. If by catching the "last one" you mean catching any coyote which happens to be on your trap line, that usually comes down to finding that coyote and putting in good basic sets in its personal line of travel. Lots of time that also means you have to back off a distance from where that individual animal is avoiding you. When you say, "I so good I can catch this animal in this field", you often are making a shy animal seem as if it were a super smart educated coyote. A number of other tricks apply, but it is not rocket science it is more like perseverance.
For a fur trapper, why would you spend the time needed to catch an individual animal? If it is convenient fine, but otherwise keep moving. If you are doing ADC work, the amount of time need to come up with individual animals is why you need to charge for the job. There is a satisfaction in catching individual animals. Whether you are catching them for damage control, for research, or just to say you did it. However, when you accomplish it be assured another "last one" is within 30 miles of you.
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: Yes sir]
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03/22/19 06:57 AM
03/22/19 06:57 AM
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danny clifton
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if you work an area hard in the spring it will be early fall before they fill back in to any appreciable amount. 3-4 guys mapping out a connected area. each doing say 400 square miles, (20X20) can put the hurt on them.
fur trapping when your catch starts dropping you need to move if you want to keep producing numbers.
fur trapping and livestock protection are two different things.
most stock killers are as dumb as the other coyotes. a few survive efforts by the cowboys to kill them and learn some things are dangerous. they are not smarter just lucky enough to survive a few things. some cowboys are real good at coyote killing. coyotes don't benefit from mistakes and get educated.
try trapping coyotes where they get denned in the spring, the plane flies 3 times a year, county has a predator man as well as federal wildlife services, every high school boy has a digital caller and uses it, every pickup has a rifle in it and you will put a lot of effort into every coyote you pelt. you wont catch many either. they are not there to catch.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: gregh]
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03/22/19 09:08 AM
03/22/19 09:08 AM
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lee steinmeyer
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I've done the numbers game and it was fun at the time, and a lot of work. The older I get the slower I get and these days I would rather catch the smart ones than put up numbers. But also our coyotes are not worth much anyways. Me too, and I get older.....it gets harder! Miss the days of the big catches, but can't go as hard as I used to. Quit going to Wy every year to start the season when I was about 53 or 54. Thought I wouldn't trap that hard again and sold about three barrels of traps. Mange had wiped out the fox there, and you couldn't cut it on just coyotes there, they work them year around and den, fly and trap and call with decoys. So trapped around home here, but wanted to go catch good coyotes, rather than these uglys we have here in eastern Ks. Good yotes arn't any harder to catch than uglies, so I started going out of state again. I love catching coyotes, but I want to catch good coyotes and for their fur, I don't like killing them and making ditch dogs out of them! Have enough of that with the lice and mange you run into when fur trapping!
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/22/19 09:10 AM
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if you work an area hard in the spring it will be early fall before they fill back in to any appreciable amount. 3-4 guys mapping out a connected area. each doing say 400 square miles, (20X20) can put the hurt on them.
fur trapping when your catch starts dropping you need to move if you want to keep producing numbers.
fur trapping and livestock protection are two different things.
most stock killers are as dumb as the other coyotes. a few survive efforts by the cowboys to kill them and learn some things are dangerous. they are not smarter just lucky enough to survive a few things. some cowboys are real good at coyote killing. coyotes don't benefit from mistakes and get educated.
try trapping coyotes where they get denned in the spring, the plane flies 3 times a year, county has a predator man as well as federal wildlife services, every high school boy has a digital caller and uses it, every pickup has a rifle in it and you will put a lot of effort into every coyote you pelt. you wont catch many either. they are not there to catch. Yep pretty well covered it right ther^^^^^^^^^^
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: Yes sir]
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03/22/19 10:20 AM
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rpmartin
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Numbers for me
Life member, NRA, NTA, RMEF, Pheasants Forever. WTA,TTA,FTA,SA,GOA, member
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Re: Fun question for u coyote trappers
[Re: Yes sir]
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03/22/19 03:25 PM
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Golf Ball is that like old song ,,,, It's a small world after all????
Kenneth schoening
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