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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6506371
03/31/19 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
You start to get into right away issues, also if you touch the corner post 2 quarters of that post is owned by the other land owners.

That would be Right of way. Not right away.

But either way.

Technically you need a public access into or onto the other public owned checkerboard property.
I would think a case could be made for using a fence ladder that dosent touch top.


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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: BernieB.] #6506448
03/31/19 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by Snare loop
There is not a man on this forum that could jump a corner post. sound like a good way of leaving a trophy hanging on the post.


Not anymore, but there was a day when a corner post was nothing for me to jump over. I have jumped up and stood on a corner post. I used to jump over picnic tables the long way and a lot of other stuff that made people wide-eyed. Even some 5-10" white guys can really jump.

When I was 48, at basketball game at the YMCA, a tall guy dunked and hung on the rim. The manager told him if he did that again, he was going to get a written warning from the YMCA, so I asked him if he would give me a written warning for doing it. He said yes so I jumped up and hung on the rim. I framed the warning.


Jeez Bernie, I heard Paul Bunyan was born in your hometown too!

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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506484
03/31/19 10:51 AM
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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506488
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You’re right 330, part of the problem is here we say it as one word, rightaway, and spell check put a space in, but then also when writing I forget that the word “of” is in it.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506535
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Thank you guys for all the replies. The ladder idea made me laugh, it is roughly a 4 mile walk just to get to that point and another 4 mile walk after. If I someone cannot cross this corner legally I believe thousands of acres are basically off limits unless you get permission from land owners. I will probably call the Game department and see if they will give me their opinion on the matter.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506539
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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: white17] #6506555
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Originally Posted by white17
Heck 4 miles is nothing where I live laugh

I could use the horses to access and have the pack horse carry the ladder, just not sure how I could teach them to climb it once we got to the corner.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506603
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Who is gonna write a horse a ticket for trespassing? Not like they can read the map or signs.


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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506727
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guarantee you will get a different answer from every warden you ask. just find out who owns it and ask . maybe 4 different owners but could be an in to more land. never know till you visit with the guys smile

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506749
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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506764
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I would like everyone who says it is illegal to offer some proof. I have a friend who claimed he did it in Colorado legally and another in SD that does it regularly.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506776
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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Yes sir] #6506807
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'd like to get chewed out from someone for touching their 1/4 of a corner post once in my life. I could have some fun with a guy like that.

Assuming there is a fence attached to said corner post, unless you jump to the top you would be climbing up the wire. I try to not be a richard, but people climbing up my fences get to me. Dad used to let anyone that wanted to, hunt or fish on this farm. They would climb over or through the fences instead of walking from the lanes. Fence staples get pulled from wood post, the clips bent off of steal posts, and wires get loosened from the climbers. Others would wrap two wires together to make it easy to go through the fence. All of these things need repaired to keep livestock from going through. This has led to hard feelings and loss of access over the years and not just on my farm. Some folks do it right, but other slobs ruin it for everyone else. Yes sir if you ask permission and act accordingly you or anyone else would be welcome. If I was to catch you climbing the fence, I would be giving a chewing. So please look at it from everyone's perspective. Of course if you did jump up on top of the post to cross, I would probably tell ya to just open the gate and walk around. Make sure and close the dang gate though. grin

As for the OP it is trespassing in KS not sure about SD. Just ask one of the other land owners, if they are like folks around here you will probably get access to cross and maybe even hunt that property to.

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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506813
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If the west boundary of the south property, and the east boundary of the north property are on a section line then it wouldnt be a problem. There is a public access right of way on every section line that is 30-60 foot wide. You could walk north until you can step into the property on the left. I know that was confusing, but Im saying to use the section line to your advantage. As soon as you step off the section line then you are trespassing if you step off in the wrong direction

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506826
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So, is it legal to destroy the Government corner survey marker by placing a corner post where it is/was?

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6506869
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[Linked Image]


Here is a zoomed out version, I have no idea if it is on a section line, I am also assuming the 2018 walk in land needed to access this remain walk in in 2019, to that we shall see.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Diggerman] #6506871
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I would like everyone who says it is illegal to offer some proof. I have a friend who claimed he did it in Colorado legally and another in SD that does it regularly.



if your interested call the dnr yourself


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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6507195
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What county; Harding, Butte, Perkins, or Meade...?

If you're 4 miles in, someone would have to see you cross a 6-foot corner, I wonder what a jury trial would say to such a brazen trespass...? I'd make sure it got on the leading state media tv channels and newspapers. Bad press for out-of-state hunting if people are being fined for crossing 6 feet of someone's land. Jeez, offer the guy a 1.75 of Windsor whiskey and you'll probably get the gate on the private land opened for you. At least, the often worked n the old days.

The issue I have with your map is that the yellow land with the black cross-hatching is BLM. We don't have a lot of BLM land compared to many western states but it tends to be concentrated in the nw part of South Dakota. BLM up there is notoriously under marked. There's a chunk up in Butte Co. that is 7 miles long but is only about 1 1/2 miles wide att he greatest distance and most of it is narrower than that. The only signage on it as far as I know is a couple of small markers on the gravel road that bisects on the north side. How many gov-owned parcels do you think you cross fence lines to get down the end of it 7 miles away...? I've been tempted to try it antelope hunting but didn't want to face the possibly that I wnt astray from the map. I suppose now, with smart phones and the hunting atlas being digital, a guy could track himself in real-time and and make sure he was still on the bubble-bee colored land.

I would just call the co in that county and tell him the location and see what he says. They should be slower now (except for spring turkey) then in the fall. Or call the state BLM office and ask them what their rules are for kitty-corner adjoining parcels. The whole idea that a guy can't cross at corners is silly. Must have been slow days for a number of lawyers or landowners to get that question to bubble to the surface. My grandfather, who never thought twice about someone crossing his pasture to reach the local fishing pond built by the WPA in 1930s, would be rolling in his grave at such pettiness in denying access. Just a potential p**sing contest for someone to show the world he still matters somewhere.

Good luck in finding out the reality...


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Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: Andrew Eastwood] #6507283
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Originally Posted by Andrew Eastwood
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'd like to get chewed out from someone for touching their 1/4 of a corner post once in my life. I could have some fun with a guy like that.

Assuming there is a fence attached to said corner post, unless you jump to the top you would be climbing up the wire. I try to not be a richard, but people climbing up my fences get to me. Dad used to let anyone that wanted to, hunt or fish on this farm. They would climb over or through the fences instead of walking from the lanes. Fence staples get pulled from wood post, the clips bent off of steal posts, and wires get loosened from the climbers. Others would wrap two wires together to make it easy to go through the fence. All of these things need repaired to keep livestock from going through. This has led to hard feelings and loss of access over the years and not just on my farm. Some folks do it right, but other slobs ruin it for everyone else. Yes sir if you ask permission and act accordingly you or anyone else would be welcome. If I was to catch you climbing the fence, I would be giving a chewing. So please look at it from everyone's perspective. Of course if you did jump up on top of the post to cross, I would probably tell ya to just open the gate and walk around. Make sure and close the dang gate though. grin

As for the OP it is trespassing in KS not sure about SD. Just ask one of the other land owners, if they are like folks around here you will probably get access to cross and maybe even hunt that property to.

I'm with you. I built about a mile of new fence every year and maintain about 40 miles of existing fence so I'm I understand about fence and and property rights.

Re: Crossing corner of property SD [Re: NonPCfed] #6507307
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
What county; Harding, Butte, Perkins, or Meade...?

If you're 4 miles in, someone would have to see you cross a 6-foot corner, I wonder what a jury trial would say to such a brazen trespass...? I'd make sure it got on the leading state media tv channels and newspapers. Bad press for out-of-state hunting if people are being fined for crossing 6 feet of someone's land. Jeez, offer the guy a 1.75 of Windsor whiskey and you'll probably get the gate on the private land opened for you. At least, the often worked n the old days.

The issue I have with your map is that the yellow land with the black cross-hatching is BLM. We don't have a lot of BLM land compared to many western states but it tends to be concentrated in the nw part of South Dakota. BLM up there is notoriously under marked. There's a chunk up in Butte Co. that is 7 miles long but is only about 1 1/2 miles wide att he greatest distance and most of it is narrower than that. The only signage on it as far as I know is a couple of small markers on the gravel road that bisects on the north side. How many gov-owned parcels do you think you cross fence lines to get down the end of it 7 miles away...? I've been tempted to try it antelope hunting but didn't want to face the possibly that I wnt astray from the map. I suppose now, with smart phones and the hunting atlas being digital, a guy could track himself in real-time and and make sure he was still on the bubble-bee colored land.

Good luck in finding out the reality...


I always hunt Harding and Butte, love that area.

I dont like to hand out booze just because I had some family members who had drinking trouble and even someone who quit could have a rough go of it if they were handed a bottle while home alone. I like to go to Walmart and buy big bags of mixed chocolates and give those out to land owners.

I will agree the BLM and much of the state land is totally unmarked and nearly impossible to navigate. I personally use a GPS with a landowner chip and it is fantastic, I would highly recommend looking into ONx for either a GPS or a smart phone, it makes for a much more enjoyable hunt when you are 100% certain you are on the correct property 100% of the time.

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