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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6503386
03/28/19 09:19 AM
03/28/19 09:19 AM
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I'm glag you cleared that up. I am going to try your bedding style on different sets. I had cut some 6x6 metal screen to fit some dogless and it doesn't want to fit under the jaws on some dogged #3's. I did however find some steel charcoal color screen I like. Looks like I will going back to the mad scientist shed to work it out.


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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6506848
03/31/19 06:00 PM
03/31/19 06:00 PM
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I’ve been trying to find steel screen lately. Went to KegCreek and his site won’t let me see his screens. Probably doesn’t have it anymore. May have to go to John Graham’s site


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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: Teacher] #6506873
03/31/19 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
I’ve been trying to find steel screen lately. Went to KegCreek and his site won’t let me see his screens. Probably doesn’t have it anymore. May have to go to John Graham’s site


If you go to Marty’s site and click on Trapping Supplies, the screen is listed. You can’t see a picture of it, but it’s there.

Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6507011
03/31/19 08:56 PM
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I buy my screen from Kegs...it’s there.

Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6509377
04/03/19 08:35 PM
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I can see the line that describes it and down a little it says comes in 1 dozen and 5 dozen. But clicking anywhere on that page wont open it to the page with just the screens. Everything else opens but not the screens. I’ll have to call him


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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6510321
04/04/19 11:04 PM
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Ogormans has it 36 inches wide by the foot.No Bs lures has it precut 5x5 or 6x6

Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: S Kemp] #6512293
04/07/19 03:19 PM
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I just spoke with Marty’s wife (at KegCreek) on Saturday. She said the link to the screens wouldn’t open because their supply was very low and he hadn’t gotten his latest supply in yet. I bought some from them and will get more later.


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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: Zagman] #6514337
04/09/19 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zagman
There's a knack to using steel screen on ANY trap.....and IMO, it's worth the aggravation.

On the Pipe Set, I probably get as many questions about steel screen usage as I do all the other parts of the set.....

I like the steel screen for ONE main reason: Its stiff enough to hold up my cover. Some guys say: Fiber glass holds up my light grass covering just as well. Does it? What about after some rain, or an inch or two of snow? With the steel, its right where I left it.

All screen types allow moisture to pass through, so I cannot highlight that attribute as solely owned by steel.........

On my traps, I don't view steel screen as a way to increase the trap's kill area. The pan on my Jakes is already big and there's no value in doing so. Other traps would benefit from a larger kill area that steel screen may provide.......

My traps are Jakes, which honestly is a DREAM trap to run screens on:

* Pan sits low, well below jaw levels.
* Jaw posts are riveted, and those rivets provide ideal place to tuck two sides of the screen
* Loose jaw allows for easy placement, but even BETTER, because the loose jaw rests on the cross piece, the screen also sits at this meeting point, so you won't be pushing the extra screen down into the trap bed and BANG!!!! trap goes off due to too light pan tension.

There's more, but I know everyone WON'T be running Jakes this year, so you will have to play with it to get the knack out of the way. BUT, that said, YOU NEVER WANT THE STEEL SCREEN (or any screen for that matter) on the top/outside of the jaws of you trap. Inside only and tucked under the jaws.

When I ran traps with dogs, I did like The Beav:

Slide screen into trap with jaws closed before setting. Sorta lining it up with your eyes.

Push down levers, open jaws, and if screen is in right place, flip dog over jaw and push firmly down into screen while pulling the pan UP into set position. You will HEAR the screen tear where the dog and pan meet. With trap in safe position, I'd then move the pan up and down make sure no screen fibers pinched in between this connection.

I've cut "V"s out, popped holes, or just cut ONE slice with scissors in that same spot. All will allow you to connect the dog and pan.

The "pop thru" method DOES have a benefit of locking the screen in place and therefore NOT having it slide around on the pan or in the jaws. You may or may NOT want that, but it does prove beneficial if you DO want to increase the "kill area" on your trap

Zagman


Mark is right on the ease with the Jakes. I bought 2 Jake traps and with the pan and jaws sitting so perfect,screen is a dream. I have tried to cheat and not use the screen with my Bridgers, but any frost or rain or snow you get and the grass justs ends up weeping down around the pan and it sticks out like a sore thumb.So this summer screen will be cut and will have to work on my pipe dream traps.

Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: Bob Jameson] #6514824
04/10/19 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
I have read these topics off and on for years regarding screen. The trap pan is designed to be in the center of the trap for a reason. Making the pan larger for trail set work for cats etc.is an advantage. When using stall sets such as dirt holes etc. I wont use a screen. Too many issues in my experience as is described. I don't want an enlarged pan area. I want the trap to fire when the animal is better positioned with its foot before firing the trap.


Never used screen myself. I was wondering if grass or similar material is placed over the trap without the screen as in MZ’s sets, if an animal would step between the pan and jaw of the trap, wouldn’t this spook the animal since it has nothing solid to step on not causing it to fire?


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Re: Screen pan covers on pipe set [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6516962
04/13/19 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
I have read these topics off and on for years regarding screen. The trap pan is designed to be in the center of the trap for a reason. Making the pan larger for trail set work for cats etc.is an advantage. When using stall sets such as dirt holes etc. I wont use a screen. Too many issues in my experience as is described. I don't want an enlarged pan area. I want the trap to fire when the animal is better positioned with its foot before firing the trap.


Never used screen myself. I was wondering if grass or similar material is placed over the trap without the screen as in MZ’s sets, if an animal would step between the pan and jaw of the trap, wouldn’t this spook the animal since it has nothing solid to step on not causing it to fire?


It does not look very natural with the pan sticking up with a little bit of grass on it.

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