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Looks like they are happy he can get the money for having to sell his guns. You arnt holding them to a different standard than you hold the NRA to are you? They should've fought for him to keep his guns when his only conviction was for some pot?
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: hippie]
#6519495 04/16/1910:37 AM04/16/1910:37 AM
Looks like they are happy he can get the money for having to sell his guns. You arnt holding them to a different standard than you hold the NRA to are you? They should've fought for him to keep his guns when his only conviction was for some pot?
They took the case at hand, they can't litigate imaginary subject matter lol.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: AJE]
#6519508 04/16/1911:04 AM04/16/1911:04 AM
IMO its not unconstitutional to take someones rights after a crime is committed else right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness would prevent prison sentences
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: AJE]
#6519521 04/16/1911:35 AM04/16/1911:35 AM
Seems odd y'all are now suddenly ok with a person losing their rights to have any gun. I could swear I've read just the opposite but it must be someone else I'm thinking had that position when it came to "shall not be infringed" and how the NRA doesn't fight it.
IMO its not unconstitutional to take someones rights after a crime is committed else right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness would prevent prison sentences
Or did you say this because the GOA didn't fight for his rights as you've posted you believe in (example above)many times?
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: Lugnut]
#6519550 04/16/1912:19 PM04/16/1912:19 PM
Yep, I pretty much gave up trying to talk sense to them a while ago. Anyone who so enthusiastically bashes the strongest pro gun group on the planet every chance they get simply isn’t going to listen to any opposing views or common sense.
Eh...wot?
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: AJE]
#6519555 04/16/1912:38 PM04/16/1912:38 PM
Yes i think dangerous people should stay in prison. I think people should get their rights back after all jail time and court supervision is served. That has nothing to do with unconstitutional. It is constitutional for a court to deny rights forever. Doesnt mean its always the right thing to do.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: Lugnut]
#6519564 04/16/1912:53 PM04/16/1912:53 PM
Yep, I pretty much gave up trying to talk sense to them a while ago. Anyone who so enthusiastically bashes the strongest pro gun group on the planet every chance they get simply isn’t going to listen to any opposing views or common sense.
Pro gun lol, that's funny because they are pro gun with restrictions, they are not however, pro 2nd. For the first 100 years, the NRA was all about gun control, they helped Congress every time they could to pass gun control. They are the reason we are in the mess we're in. 1934 NFA, 1938 GCA, they supported ending mail order guns, they supported the 1967 Mulford act, 1968 GCA, they tried very hard to squash Heller, they supported NICS, and so on to now. Feinstein tryed for 8 years to get the fix nics and failed until the NRA came out and supported it. The NRA came out in support for the bump stock ban, they came out and supported red flag laws, albeit, with some restrictions. You guys are right, the NRA has a ton of influence, there using it to get even red states and red politicians to cozy up to "sensible gun control".
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: AJE]
#6519569 04/16/1901:03 PM04/16/1901:03 PM
That’s exactly why I won’t debate this point with folks who purposely ignore all the great pro gun stuff the NRA has done over many decades while gleefully pointing out the bad stuff they’ve done. It’s just plain ignorant.
Carry on the bashfest, cut your own throats if you wish but I wish you wouldn’t cut mine in the process.
Eh...wot?
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: Lugnut]
#6519576 04/16/1901:11 PM04/16/1901:11 PM
That’s exactly why I won’t debate this point with folks who purposely ignore all the great pro gun stuff the NRA has done over many decades while gleefully pointing out the bad stuff they’ve done. It’s just plain ignorant.
Carry on the bashfest, cut your own throats if you wish but I wish you wouldn’t cut mine in the process.
IMO, your the one cutting throats Lug. We all have given props to the NRA for things like Eddie Eagle, marksmanship etc. However, the facts are there and no one has answered the question, why is a supposed pro gun org advocating for ANY form of gun control. No one can deny that the NRA is involved in gun control, heck, on their own site they say that NICS should have been named the NRA act lol.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: AJE]
#6519582 04/16/1901:26 PM04/16/1901:26 PM
What would you say if you read a statement from the GOA saying they supported the nics, the same one the NRA said they would support when it was in the national carry bill?
It's true, all you have to do is join these orgs and read what they say. In fact, the Washington free beacon and some other papers quoted them. I don't like to stoop to your level and say these things on the forum, but dang your ignorant to what's really going on in the real world!
Re: NRA in trouble?
[Re: hippie]
#6519608 04/16/1902:28 PM04/16/1902:28 PM
What would you say if you read a statement from the GOA saying they supported the nics, the same one the NRA said they would support when it was in the national carry bill?
It's true, all you have to do is join these orgs and read what they say. In fact, the Washington free beacon and some other papers quoted them. I don't like to stoop to your level and say these things on the forum, but dang your ignorant to what's really going on in the real world!
GOA's stand, from their own website. Unlike the NRA's website that openly promotes and advocates for gun control, and you support.