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Flags? #6520230
04/17/19 04:14 PM
04/17/19 04:14 PM
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Motley Row Offline OP
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Anybody have any pics of flagging they use? I can't use feathers in Wisconsin, so looking for other ideas. I've heard of tinsel or cd's, do you guys try those at all?

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6520245
04/17/19 04:44 PM
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For a set location attractor I use a 4X6 inch piece cardboard, brown on one side and white on the other. When fluttering in a breeze the white stands out against the dark forest cover background and the brown against the snow, like a flashing neon sign. This flasher is place about 5-10 feet out side the cubby where it can be seen from several long distance directions within hare activity areas. This works very well for me in drawing lynx to set locations from long distances.
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Last edited by bctomcat; 04/17/19 04:46 PM.

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Re: Flags? [Re: bctomcat] #6520251
04/17/19 04:54 PM
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Nice! Do you use that setup at all of your sets? Cubby's, dirt hole, flat?

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6520255
04/17/19 05:03 PM
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Cds, tinsel, and white cardboard down here


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6520276
04/17/19 05:58 PM
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Re: Flags? [Re: Lazarus] #6520326
04/17/19 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Motley Row
Nice! Do you use that setup at all of your sets? Cubby's, dirt hole, flat?
I've only used it for cats. I haven't ever used flagging for any other species.


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6520912
04/18/19 07:05 PM
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Laz posted his attractors are par none the best even against a whole turkey wing. I had to see it for my self to believe it but a day with a very slight breeze his attractor looked like a mini helicopter! My turkey motionless! Its hard to believe but I could easily see his attractor at 300 yards! Twice as far as any cat can see clearly.


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Re: Flags? [Re: TONY.F] #6520994
04/18/19 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
Laz posted his attractors are par none the best even against a whole turkey wing. I had to see it for my self to believe it but a day with a very slight breeze his attractor looked like a mini helicopter! My turkey motionless! Its hard to believe but I could easily see his attractor at 300 yards! Twice as far as any cat can see clearly.



Thank you sir!!

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6521147
04/19/19 07:14 AM
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I've experimented with many materials for flagging. Some serious testing.
Here in the east we have lots of rain and added snow with freezing conditions.
Christmas tree tinsel, fur. feathers & fake fur gets wet or freezes and doesn't perform on a constant. daily basis.
Cardboard gets wet and fall apart. Tyvek when colored on one side fades. CD's are a bit bulky & break if one is not careful.

Thru my testing, I feel I found the ultimate flagging material. It's readily available in farming communities and FREE for the asking.
It's call AG BAGS. Ag bags are the long, white, tube like bags used to store feed. As farmer cuts off end of bag to get at feed, he discards these cut offs. He will give you all you want if you ask. When finished using all his Ag Bags, farmer has to pay to haul cut offs to landfill.
Ag Bag material is made to take the weather. I've tested it in all conditions, high winds, rain, snow, freezing rain, summer heat. It has not failed.
It never fades and is made to shed water. Plus it is white on one side and black on the other side. In which I feel is a perfect combination of flagging colors.

Ag Bag with cut offs laying around...
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1 1/2" wide x 8" long seems to be the right size.
Thru testing in high winds, eyelet isn't necessary in this tough material.
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Here I added eyelet for professional look, since I was making some for a friend.
A fishing snap swivel in needed to make the light weigh material spin & dance in a slight breeze.
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*For folks that need a little flash or sparkle just add hot glue & sparkle




Re: Flags? [Re: Hern] #6521166
04/19/19 07:53 AM
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That's a great idea, and I can get all I want from my cousin. Thanks!

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6523708
04/23/19 05:59 AM
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Thanks Motley Row

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6523856
04/23/19 10:49 AM
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Happy flagging.


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6523962
04/23/19 02:32 PM
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I'm going to try both flagging options mentioned above. I've used flagging on my cat sets and it has brought them close but didn't bring them all the way in. They satisfied their curiosity from a distance and went about their business. I saw the evidence in the snow.

Re: Flags? [Re: Posco] #6523970
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Originally Posted by Posco
I'm going to try both flagging options mentioned above. I've used flagging on my cat sets and it has brought them close but didn't bring them all the way in. They satisfied their curiosity from a distance and went about their business. I saw the evidence in the snow.


You hit on a truism there Posco.

Think about it. Why does that cat take any interest in your flag? I can only think of a couple reasons: (1) the cat can eat it; (2) the cat can mate with it; or (3) the cat feels threatened because the object poses a threat to its territory dominance. Cats are near sighted so once the cat has closed the distance to the flag to see exactly what it is, if it doesn't create an interest in the three reasons mentioned above, THEN WHY WOULD THE CAT COME ANY CLOSER???

Granted, cats are curious, but I suggest that their curiosity is centered around those three reasons so once they determine your flag is a piece of tape, plastic, CD, foil, cardboard, etc. there is really little interest in coming any closer and they turn to leave.

Re: Flags? [Re: Posco] #6523972
04/23/19 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Posco
I've used flagging on my cat sets and it has brought them close but didn't bring them all the way in. They satisfied their curiosity from a distance and went about their business. I saw the evidence in the snow.
The flagging is to draw them into close proximity of a set. Your bait and/or lure should take over at this point and draw them into the set, if not then I think you need to change one or the other.

Last edited by bctomcat; 04/24/19 12:45 PM.

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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6523977
04/23/19 03:06 PM
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Depends on what you want the flagging to do.
Flagging used to attract animals to a set is different from flagging used to divert animals into a set.


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Re: Flags? [Re: Boco] #6524047
04/23/19 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Depends on what you want the flagging to do.
Flagging used to attract animals to a set is different from flagging used to divert animals into a set.
Explain the difference please.


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Re: Flags? [Re: bctomcat] #6524155
04/23/19 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bctomcat
Your bait and/or lure should take over at this point and draw them into the set, if not them I think you need to change one or the other.


I used about every set known to T-Man as well as about every recommended lure. Baited cubbies with beaver, deer and grouse and still had cats turn their noses up at it.

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6524162
04/23/19 08:27 PM
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I often use flagging to divert animals off of open travel routes into snares.There are certain items you can use that animals will avoid to get them to go where you want.
A lot of trappers don't know how to use flagging as a diversion.


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Re: Flags? [Re: Boco] #6524194
04/23/19 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I often use flagging to divert animals off of open travel routes into snares.There are certain items you can use that animals will avoid to get them to go where you want.
A lot of trappers don't know how to use flagging as a diversion.


That's a good idea.

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