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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520269
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Gotta feeling this is going to be an interesting thread to follow.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520270
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Alex was hired later,How much money did you put in to rebuilding?Trappers did it.Councils from all over Ontario and some from the Northern US too.Mark Spencer was a great asset.

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520273
04/17/19 05:46 PM
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So WissMiss,you know the history of fha so well,where and when was the first sale held when it was OTA.Thats pretty basic history.

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Jurassic Park] #6520327
04/17/19 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Nafa should only be available to Canadians. Americans can sell to groeny.



Any Americans that had coons at NAFA already sold to groeny. They just weren't aware they'd be sold for peanuts.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520329
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Some where some how some purse strings are being pulled.
It will be interesting where the lawyer goes and who he may be contacting.
Something has happened that has exposed the company and was not dealt with properly.

Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520351
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When they say solicitors they don't mean lawyer,lol.
Its the agents that solicit fur for NAFA


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520352
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They probably made a deal with groaney.It was costing NAFA too much handling the lower quality US fur in todays market,so they will concentrate on the more valuable Canadian fur and let groany have the American fur.
Good business decision.

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520356
04/17/19 07:52 PM
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Well crap.....more bad news for us southern fur trappers. I'm sure most northern fur agents still have a job.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Boco] #6520359
04/17/19 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
They probably made a deal with groaney.It was costing NAFA too much handling the lower quality US fur in todays market,so they will concentrate on the more valuable Canadian fur and let groany have the American fur.
Good business decision.





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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520364
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Here is the email

April 17, 2019

Dear Producer,


Today is a difficult day at NAFA as we have had to let go members of NAFA staff who were our close friends and colleagues. I am informing you of this as these staff members include some of our North American solicitors.

We are well aware that the entire fur industry has been under considerable adverse pressure for the last couple of years. Mink consignment volumes are currently falling dramatically and market prices for our goods remain at unprofitable levels across all facets of the trade.

NAFA has obviously not been immune to the business realities and hardships occurring all across our industry. Although we have done better than many of our competitors in recent times, it was time for us to take action in this regard.

My first obligation must be to help the Company navigate through these difficult economic times and in doing so, protect nearly 350 years of NAFA heritage. It also means ensuring the ongoing economic viability of the Company, our corporate mission and our ability to continue to service our customers for years to come. Finally, I am trying to set the Company up for what I believe is the best possibility of future success. This is the only way that I know to return our business to the path of growth and profitability while protecting the jobs/financial health of all remaining NAFA employees and stakeholders.

Your solicitor will reach out to you in the coming days. In the meantime, should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you for your understanding.




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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520366
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Why swampwolf I seen posts on here that most of you guys bailed on nafa as groaney was getting you better money for your fur.Why should they keep paying their solicitors if they aren't getting them any fur?


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Boco] #6520371
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Originally Posted by Boco
No cheques bounced yet.
.......they got to sell the fur first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 not going to get a check with it sitting in cold storage lol

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520372
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All fur sold. Cheques from NAFA and FHA already in the bank.
Any straggling late winter/early spring fur will go on next years winter sale.Like I said-its the poor fur they cant sell.I think they are tired of dealing with it.(costs them).

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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Boco] #6520374
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Originally Posted by Boco
Why swampwolf I seen posts on here that most of you guys bailed on nafa as groaney was getting you better money for your fur.Why should they keep paying their solicitors if they aren't getting them any fur?

You are correct. Some of us did turn to Groeny. Not a bad decision either, but I hate to see market competition lessen. Not good for competitive pricing and our southern fur will feel the depression a lot longer than fur that swims in ice and walks thru snow.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520376
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I don't blame you for selling your fur where you get the best price,I would too.
I don't blame them either for cutting costs where they don't get fur anymore.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Boco] #6520377
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Originally Posted by Boco
I don't blame you for selling your fur where you get the best price,I would too.
I don't blame them either for cutting costs where they don't get fur anymore.

Me either. Business is business. I'm just wondering if I'll live long enough to see an increased demand for fur again. At nearly 55 ...it dont look like it.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520379
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Yea you will but I might not,lol.(63)


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #6520383
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As far as history of OTA when they went under and reorganized as FHA. I sold 113 held over coons for 83 cents each.

Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520386
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That's good money if figured in todays dollars.


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Re: NAFA IMPLODING ? [Re: walleyed] #6520390
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83 cents....that is more than they are averaging today!

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