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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6522895
04/21/19 07:15 PM
04/21/19 07:15 PM
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8117 Steve R Offline
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You get all the good gigs, Beav.


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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6522951
04/21/19 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy


There is an even better story in a Canadian province where the season is open in fall and spring and closed in winter. Wildlife management analytics. confused.


Manitoba changed it's season when the prices were high '12 or so. it was because some overzellious fellows went and set and pulled and left hundreds of open huts in the dead of winter -40c/f. They would not even stop and cover a house, one pull and go. In a marsh 1000A and out in two days. A marsh that size should have had 4000 maybe 300 were pulled the rest froze out.
So they closed the season 1 Dec to 15 March....the province has re-twigged the dates several times since, southern zone closes 31 April now.
Once open water starts and the rats are out and about the fat reserves are used up fast and the leather goes yellow opaque in a week and sheeding pdq then.

Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: The Beav] #6522961
04/21/19 09:26 PM
04/21/19 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I'm going to start trapping some rats either tomorrow or the next day.


Aren稚 you the one preaching trappers know when to quit? Lol

Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6523066
04/21/19 11:10 PM
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When the pay checks stop coming then I'll quit. But until then rats are averaging $10.00 so It's wader time. LOL


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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: Northof50] #6523141
04/22/19 07:41 AM
04/22/19 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by nimzy


There is an even better story in a Canadian province where the season is open in fall and spring and closed in winter. Wildlife management analytics. confused.


Manitoba changed it's season when the prices were high '12 or so. it was because some overzellious fellows went and set and pulled and left hundreds of open huts in the dead of winter -40c/f. They would not even stop and cover a house, one pull and go. In a marsh 1000A and out in two days. A marsh that size should have had 4000 maybe 300 were pulled the rest froze out.
So they closed the season 1 Dec to 15 March....the province has re-twigged the dates several times since, southern zone closes 31 April now.
Once open water starts and the rats are out and about the fat reserves are used up fast and the leather goes yellow opaque in a week and sheeding pdq then.


Seems like a knee jerk reaction to a situation that could have been handled far more appropriately.

Sound familiar WI? Zone jumping? Common opener?

MN? NR issue?

Emotions lead to dumb decisions???

Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6523143
04/22/19 07:49 AM
04/22/19 07:49 AM
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Agreed, Nimzy.


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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6523268
04/22/19 11:30 AM
04/22/19 11:30 AM
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Nimzy the NR issue is strategic. It has a lot to do with limiting competition. It is a question of ownership of the resource and if NR have any rights to another State's citizens resource .Especially when considering limited opportunity animals. For example: draws or seasonal limits. It can also have conservation and economic issues.

You can make it emotional like the reciprocity regulations.

As far as Minnesota the only dumb decision IMO was to take it to court.


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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #6523271
04/22/19 11:36 AM
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What was so dumb about it?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #7693656
10/16/22 06:33 PM
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Just because I'm bored and I haven't been paying attention.

Nimzy, did you guys ever get a decent change in your rat season?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #7693658
10/16/22 06:36 PM
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There won't be any rats coming out of the Sandhill potholes this year. Drier than a popcorn fart.


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Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: nimzy] #7694122
10/17/22 10:37 AM
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Western Iowa streams look like shallow dribbles of hog confinment sewage. A rat in his right mind would'nt and could'nt live in these once productive rat streams. As scarce as rats are should bring $10. But FFG says there is a lot of rat carry over from past seasons.

Re: Stalled o知uskrat [Re: bodycount] #7694345
10/17/22 06:36 PM
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We have the 3 zone season this fall with the extended spring seasons as well. We too in my area are very dry and many places with fair to good rat numbers the last 3 years have been dry since June. Rivers are down about a foot as well, maybe more.
I testified in favor or restating the multipe zone seasons 3 different times. I believe we started in 2016- or 2017 so 5-6 years to make that change.
Bryce

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