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Beaver advice #6525410
04/25/19 05:08 PM
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So I have been removing beaver from 2 large lakes. 1 of the lakes is about 25 acres and the 2nd one is about 75 acres. The little lake feeds under ground naturally to the large lake. The large lake then drains to form a creek that the beaver move in from the river that is located 200 yards down stream and keep damming it up on either side of the drain tile that the lake drains through. Usually about 30 yards away from the drain tile up or down stream causing the lakes to flood. This creek is about 6ft wide and 3 foot deep. Whats the best long term solution to try to keep more from moving in and flooding it the same way. Any help is appreciated.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6525414
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Trap it hard in the spring and fall.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: Boco] #6525440
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I agree Boco! The problem is that this job is for a twp and they have experienced a lot of negative attention for this. So much so that it has made the news on several stations. They are looking for a more long term solution.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6525449
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Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6525581
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Google "Clemson Water Leveler" and install 2 on each lakes' dam out towards the ends


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Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6525591
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Trap it hard EVERY spring and fall.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6525827
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Thanks for the advise guys. I do appreciate it.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: Boco] #6526366
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Originally Posted by Boco
Trap it hard EVERY spring and fall.


Sound advice! I say this to people and they think I'm on a sales pitch. One customer read all types of information on how pond levelers work, paid for a consultant to come out for advice, and had them installed. Didn't want to use trapping methods and was told they would leave on their own once the work was done. The beaver dropped a bunch of trees, started on another dam that diverted water and created another pond that reached his septic. He's now on a management plan.


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Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6526516
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X2 with Boco. It will takes a couple of years to thin them down. If you can do that. With not many people trapping beaver now with the prices you will get beaver moving in from all over.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6528168
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3 with Boco. The pond levelers don't work that often

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6528368
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The problem is not the lakes, but the problem are the beavers in the surrounding waters. Beaver will travel over land as well as water. The way I deal with situations is depleting the surrounding areas and that will provide a buffer for the beavers to move into, instead of the lake. If you focus on the lakes alone, you will always be filling up with beaver.

For an engineer's solution which would be more expense for the owners, plastic tile buried with cones to deal with the lake flooding would end the beaver damming problem, as they could dam all the chose to, but if alternate tiles drained it to the river, the beaver are not that intelligent to plug those outlets which would be set at the level they wanted the lake to be maintained. The township board should respond favorably to the additional tiles as this is about flood control and public relations, and should not cost a fortune as farmers drain areas like this all the time to keep from flooding.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6528375
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The Clemson pond leveler will work if constructed properly. You will have a never ending supply of beaver coming in to this lake every time the river rises enough to flood them out of their river lodges.
I had a job like this one on a wetland mitigation site. Every time the river flooded, the river beavers would move into the pond and dam up the overflow culvert. Once the river went back down, the beavers went back to their river homes. Problem was, they didn't take their dam dam with them. I never caught the first beaver at that site. That's why I recommended that they have Clemson pond leveler installed. The beavers have not been able to defeat it in over 7 years. DO not use the one which has a stand pipe. You need the one with the submerged pipe which has a cage covering the end of the pipe out in the deeper water.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6528408
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Trouble with them is the beaver move upstream out of sight,creating dangerous high water upstream from the culvert,that in a lot of cases goes undetected.
When that lets go,and they will at some point,especially if on high ground,the road is gone regardless of the water depth at the roadway.
Just because the beavers don't dam the road culvert doesn't mean they don't have to be kept under control by trapping.
Those levellers do nothing to prevent BEAVER problems.
The water is not the problem-the beavers are the problem.When beaver are trapped out regularly there is no water problem.

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Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6528775
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I trapped a park district creek that had multiple dams in a short stretch. The reason-Clemson levelers. There were 3 levelers and the beaver just kept damming up upstream of the levelers until they flooded the area again.

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Do what Boco suggested --TRAP IT HARD!

Re: Beaver advice [Re: Boco] #6529830
05/01/19 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Trouble with them is the beaver move upstream out of sight,creating dangerous high water upstream from the culvert,that in a lot of cases goes undetected.
When that lets go,and they will at some point,especially if on high ground,the road is gone regardless of the water depth at the roadway.
Just because the beavers don't dam the road culvert doesn't mean they don't have to be kept under control by trapping.
Those levellers do nothing to prevent BEAVER problems.
The water is not the problem-the beavers are the problem.When beaver are trapped out regularly there is no water problem.

Pond levelers don't work everywhere. In fact they don't work at all in most cases, but when you are dealing with a lake which cannot be drained, you will need to trap out 10-20 miles in every direction to stop new ones from coming in. Even that relief would only be temporary. The leveler won't keep the beavers out, but it will prevent them from raising the water level in the lake.
I cannot stress enough that it must be properly constructed to work.

Re: Beaver advice [Re: WayOfLife] #6529851
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Trapping 20 miles in each direction wont stop beavers from moving in if there is preferred habitat there.
Trapping them out on an ongoing basis whenever they show up in spring and fall will prevent all the problems associated with beaver,not just the high water problems.With or without the levellers.

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