I had a five gallon bucket of meat scraps cubed and I dumped about 2 cups of sodium benzoate solution into it intending to add a few more cups later. Well I sorta forgot about it now that the season is over. Long story short I remembered it today when I saw it in the shop. I keep the shop around 65 degrees year round. It gassed off with an aquarium pump stone but oh God does it smell. I don’t make a lot of bait but when I do, I usually preserve it fresh. I don’t have to worry about possums skunk and many raccoons around here. Just coyotes badgers and fox. Any suggestions on how to proceed? I’m primarily concerned with rolling responses. I do happen to have a bottle of Marsaydas bait solution laying around fwiw.

. Take some out and see what response you get and then work from there based on what the critters are telling you.

nothing is a hundred percent but as a general rule anything a coyote wants to roll on, if its in a hole, the coyote will dig it out after first sticking its nose clear down in the hole.

when you add a bait solution to meat base you are adding attracters that don't involve a food response. if the animal is not hungry when it finds your set, (coyotes, cats and fox are good hunters) they will still investigate because of the added scents. it probably should be called lure instead of bait

coons are gluttens. a preferred food is rarely ignored by them

I will say mine gets better each year and is now almost liquid. I don't buy into to all that "look good" stuff. Guys worried about 3 or 4 months and mine is 11 years old now.Read Cliftons first sentence again.

Cams are better than any response you will get on these types of threads when it comes to getting a response from an animal. jmo

You will be surprised how much a bait will mellow out after you put it all together. When you first mix it it won't "smell right" if you are using some already made up bait for comparison. It will seem harsher or sharper to your nose, if your nose is still in working condition. Let it stand after you have mixed it up and a pretty harsh smelling brew will have mellowed or sweetened out. Let the coyotes be the judge, as already suggested.

Also, coyotes naturally respond by peeing, defecating, digging, and of course rolling if they can get it out where they can shoulder it and roll on it.

I have been going through a lot of past research on coyotes, and I see that even quality urine can be a trigger to a rolling response.

I think some things get rolled on more than others, but it is a natural coyote response irregardless.

In my years in the field I have seen that canines don't always need to remove the material to roll on it.

Some will roll on it when in the hole just due to the strength and type of odor coming from the hole. Or where some has been dribbled on the ground or a flat set type positioning of the product. There are always variables that determine that for each animal.

When testing various lures, baits and ingredients over time I had some holes that were too deep for any animal to remove the material. Also some responses with video of those that take a brief evaluation of the leaking odor and commence to roll very quickly as well.

Some animals will roll while others will just dig at it. The only real way to evaluate this best is to get enough video over time to get a better result of a product or material. I would use it for something before pitching it.

I appreciate the honest advice. I don’t have the cameras or time to test it in a condition other than what I’m used to- which is fresh preserved when made by me, or one of the commercially prepared products that I trust. I’m pitching it. Thanks again.

pitch it my way then LOL

Ain't nothing to it, but to do it.

I want a roll response if its good enough to wear as cologne .It gest a lot of attention. As stated yotes will roll on most any smell.I've personally saw yotes roll on a lot of crazy things. From convinience store napkins to fresh chain saw dust. Sitting in a deer stand I watched one pee and roll on a deer carcass then proceed to eat it. I don't personally believe a meat can be over tainted.! How many thousands of yotes visit those gutt curling dead piles in 100 degree heat? Sure it will draw opies but what bait or lure with any backbone wont!

A couple years ago I filled 5 gal buckets with scrap meat from the animals I skinned..
This stuff sat all summer in the heat until the fall and it was basically liquid..
In September I went out where the coyotes travel and dug a small area out and poured it in a covered it..
This stuff would make you gag ain’t no joking...
Tell you what a lot of coyotes would stop by either dig or assume roll in it..honest truth even in December
while snow was on some would dig it up and it had been there since September...

I never trapped on top of these roll stationed, just upwind a bit..

I’d keep it, put it outside away from the house and let her age...

I still have 3 5gal buckets buried from 2 years ago and it smells sweet...

Them "expert" trap placement folks just need an animal to walk up or by a hole with bait in it. Which will leave your question up for debate with no real definitive answer.

Yeah, I’m an expert nothing. I’ve called coyotes most of my adult life but I’ve only trapped 5 years with any kind of serious effort. Unfortunately fur season is also my busiest time at work so I don’t do a ton of experimenting. I haven’t thrown it out yet but it ain’t trash day either. I have enough beaver in bait solution and apple road horse meat to last me 3 years. I guess I could save it until I retire. Ought to be about right by then. I could then invite people over to show them my retirement savings

Some "experts" say you need at least 3 years minimum. I believe that is a bs statement and has more to do with what the individual is trying to accomplish regarding the bait. I have no trouble with getting canines and other animals to respond to bait, or keeping them there for periods of time while triggering a variety of responses. It really comes down to how serious you want to get and are about when it comes to trapping your animals, especially if you're in adc work counting on bait to help seal the deal when you have paying customers. On the bright side your bait should be darn near perfect by then.

Test the tainted bait the same way you tested your fresh bait to determine if it worked. I bet you would be surprised by the results. Personally I think the fear of rolling is a bit over played for several different reasons. My two favorite lures will cause a rolling response but used in the right amount and presented in a favorable manner I believe they will hold their own compared to everything else I've tested.