Google Dustin Drews YouTube for blind sets. It’s probably what you’re doing already but for those who haven’t seen his blind sets, you’ll find it interesting

Set 1
Change when I think I want something different in the same trail farther down or up the trail(cow trail) or seldom used 2 track with (ruts ) .
Make your same blind set blend well and then just make poke hole driver size or rebar size only. Use small dab of natural baiting the poke hole no (commerical bait) this set is for the last one or 2 there. I like( muskrat fat) in the hole.
(Spring or summer set for me.)

Set 2
Blind set blend well, take white cow, or sheep, or horse bone break take bone pound in the ground knuckle up with no more than a inch sticking above ground.
Bladder urine only,, 1/2 ounce ( OR)fresh turd or turds from some other area.
Spring or summer set
These sets could be used to clean out , the tough to catch ones in a area where over use of lure or baits ,,,, ( when new to the area you have no way of knowing who or what was being used that caused the avoidance , so when thing like the normal stuff do not work these have worked fairly well.)or most likely bad methods where being used.

Some tufts of fur placed In the trail side brush will get them to stop and check It out. With a correctly placed trap It will take some critters. I think I read that In one of Ogs writings.

That's in one of Slim's books, which are well worth owning all of them.
JC's blind set dvd and bobcat dvd both have real good info for inquiring minds.

May be in still quite new but really fear picking up some ones dog on a blind set.

If your trapping canines and you have domestic dogs running around your going catch them. That's where these CRs shine. They may not be the perfect answer when targeting wild canines but your domestic canines are un hurt when caught. And that'd a real plus.

Thanks Red. CR's aren't forgiving here Beav. I'm not going to get into it, but I'd much rather let one out of a foothold. Not all domesticated dogs have been on leashes. Greyhounds in particular around here they have one speed and that's fast and one thing on their mind that's the coyote.

Yes Teacher Dustin Drew's set-up in particularly what I use I believe I alluded to that earlier. He actually beds the trap and I believe uses peat moss. Most of mine are simply an indentation made with the hammer or sometimes a very shallow bed, and grass clippings below and on top of the trap. It holds up to all weather up until an ice storm which puts everything out of commission.

If it's early enough in the year I simply just take a pair of scissors with me and clip the grass around the set to use. I also keep the lawn trimmings over the summer and dry them out when everything turns brown. Most people scratch their head when they see me do it, but it does catch animals. I haven't found a need to even worry about bedding the trap solid as the two very small guides center the animals on the pan.

Otis I have seen JC Connor's book/DVD mentioned multiple times regarding blind sets in the past. One of these days I'm going to just get it. I prefer to read if I can but with grad school I've been doing more reading than I really care to do.

I don't catch 100s of coyotes In CRs every year but I do catch a few (30 or so) and to date I have NEVER had a dead coyote In a CR. I really don't believe any domestic dog Is going to fight a CR harder then a coyote. As long as there Isn't any entanglement I see no down side by using them In areas where dogs are being used.
You catch a dog In freezing weather and that dog spends a night In that trap there are going to be problems. I have spent a few yeas trapping both coyotes and fox for the live market and freezing weather Is not your friend.

Put a heater in the set beav. Lol

I've always caught more domestic dogs in lured sets than blind sets. Sure wish coyotes would be that easy.. I hate CRs, I won't say why online...….


Good stuff Red! Kinda funny how like minds think.. I gotta a bucket full of muskrat and mink fat just for the natural bait thing..

[quote=trappergbus]I've always caught more domestic dogs in lured sets than blind sets. Sure wish coyotes would be that easy.. I hate CRs, I won't say why online...….


Good stuff Red! Kinda funny how like minds think.. I gotta a bucket full of muskrat and mink fat just for the natural bait
Thanks guys

And if the owner was with the dog there should not be a problem turning the dog loose unharmed I would think.

We don't have restrictions on CR's here in Nebraska. No entanglement laws. If I set one I don't plan on anything being alive when I get there. Locations I use these would be in timbers/creeks/and fence crossings. All areas where entanglement is certainly an issue. Any press is bad press when it comes to trappers from what I've found, and I don't plan to be the poster child for why Nebraska laws become more restrictive. Any questions look at 220 in buckets in Minnesota. I've had multiple catches on dogs which peacefully slept the night away even in cold weather waiting for me to let them out of footholds. Only had a few I've had to catch pole and judging their demeanor when I let them out they wouldn't have stopped once they hit a CR or snare.

I wish we could use lethal snares but It won't ever happen In WI. So were saddled with using CRs In non entanglement situations.
They work pretty good but you are limited as to where you can set them and that means you have to pass up lots of good locations.
The good thing Is we use them on public ground where you have tons of bird hunters using the same ground. And I know for sure they would rather be releasing their dog from a non lethal CR then a MB650. It's like any tool you just have to get use to them.

And they are a true blind set LOL

Well use a smaller trap that isn't 4 coiled..I've blind set a bunch in MB 450s or 550s 2 coiled. Ya don't need a 3 or 4..

As stated by some previously, anything other than a properly covered/bedded trap with a couple of guides and a step over stick set in a travel way is not, imho, a blind set. They work extremely well in most any kind of terrain at any kind of intersection where target animals are traveling in recognizable trails. Most of the time the set can be made within sight of your vehicle. If some folks would spend more time reading their territory as they pass thru, rather than rushing to the next place they are gonna dig a hole, they might be surprised at what a few well placed blind sets would produce. This is especially true with "educated"/reluctant coyotes. If the terrain is right, nearly half my predator sets may be true blind sets, most with footholds, but as I have become more comfortable with them, snares as well. Yes, traps snapped by deer & feral hogs are sometimes frustrating, but a remake on a trap or snare with a long extension cable doesn't take long. It sure does cut down on grinners where they are plentiful.

Here in Michigan we can't hang cable till after Jan. 1. That in itself should tell ya why I have used traps for years in true blind sets but a dab of this or that will make them make a few more steps, that will increase the catch rate. Just use real mild stuff in small applications.

Ok so not sure if it's been discussed already but what's everyone stance on blind setting decoy sets.

Maybe I can guess what mean by decoy but care to define why?

Not to mention blending em in. In some conditions it’s a real pain in the you know what. A time killer.