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Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping #6539382
05/17/19 07:40 PM
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I just got a Honda 420 Rancher and want to put heavy springs, etc on it for gear and beaver. Any experience or suggestions? The factory springs aren’t near heavy enough.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6539464
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I run a 2013 420 rancher you can adjust the shocks to be stiffer they are sat on the softest setting from the factory. I also run a heavy wall extremely aggressive tire and found the stiff side walls helped eith the weight and the aggressive mud tires seem to not tear up fields and mud roads as bad as the factory style tread

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6539499
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Thanks. I do need better tires than what came on it for sure. We cranked the shocks all the way up, but I’m still thinking of going to heavier ones. Born2trap you running 6 ply tires?

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6539653
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6 Ply ITP's all the way!

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6540942
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*44:

I've run nothing but Honda's my whole life. My advice and experience is that the bike is only going to haul so much. You can beef up springs, etc. but all you are really doing is transferring the load to some other place on the bike, typically the frame. The fear frame of the bike in particular is susceptible to wear and tear over time under a load. I've had three Foremans and one Rubicon and I've busted the frame on every single one of them. Just a word to the wise. If you load the bike down with all that gear, it will eventually break the frame some place.

Good luck.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6540954
05/20/19 12:47 PM
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And all that load makes it top heavy and unstable. I stepped up to a side by side that is made to handle the weight.


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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6540958
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Everyone's needs, terrain and pocket books are different. A side by side doesn't work for me for a number of reasons, but I work next door to a Honda/Yamaha/Polaris dealer and I ogle them every day. I've been able to make it work for me on my cat lines by hauling gear in my Tacoma when I'm scouting, caching traps along my trap lines. Then when I go back to set traps, I just haul what I can comfortably carry from stash to stash. When it's time to pick up a line, I just reverse the process and stash traps with the Honda so I can pick them up with the Tacoma. Usually I will GPS each stash and then sometimes make a night hunt with the Tacoma to come back and get the traps. This works for me, but each to his own.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6540959
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Sounds like I need to trade regularly.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6540963
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Good points, thanks.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541017
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TRAPPING IS DEFINITELY HARD ON ATVS my Honda rancher 450 is having a few issues that need addressed before next season. broke the rear shock! My intentions are to design a dual shock system. But as laz said my next break will be the frame! but for beaver trapping nothings more versatile than a 4 wheeler. I couldn't agree more on running 6 ply tires made mine ride 100% better. Even with a broke shock it was some what stable.


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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541028
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Broke the rear shock mount on my 2017 Foreman, way back in the boonies. Luckily there was an old fence so I robbed enough wire from the fence to wire the base of the shock mount to a divot in the axle. Limped about 11 miles back to the truck that way. I saw a documentary one time on race car engines and the take away was that they build the engine to develop as much horse power as possible. Then it will reach a breaking point where some part of the engine fails. Then they address that failure and do it again, knowing that another part of the engine will fail, and they will beef that up, etc. Its a constant battle of fixing the weakest part of the engine. So it is with ATV's and trapping. Steve Wood said it best in one of his DVD's when he said the phrase "Trapper Tested and Approved" should be the standard that all manufacturers strive to achieve.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541325
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Trapping is definitely hard on atvs, but without one it is much harder on your body. And much SLOWER.

Dont think of it as a hauler, think of it as express with a few traps.Don’t try to carry everything at once. 6 traps may be enough for a whole farm. That means 6 traps, 6 stakes, lure, urine, bait, tools, and you. Later it may mean 6 catches. Can you leave most gear in a truck or trailer and replenish?

Use a heavy duty plastic sled. I do this all the time. Tomorrow I will be hauling brake rotors to a beaver job on a sled. Use a small trailer

Save up and get a side by side. There are plenty used for sale.


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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541410
05/21/19 09:24 AM
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I use a small trailer to, when I have a lot to carry.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541422
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I have a Yamaha Kodiak 700. I haven't found a need to beef up anything on it, it's plenty tough as it is. They are an expensive purchase so I don't beat on it but I take it anywhere I feel like going. Front and rear racks are more than adequate for what I do.

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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541428
05/21/19 09:43 AM
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I use a trailer for hauling trapping gear and fur.Not enough room on the bike for stuff if you are doing a longer run. [Linked Image]
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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541454
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im picking one up next month. I plan to use it when pastures are to muddy to drive my pickup into. haul it pasture to pasture on a trailer. will not need to haul a lot of weight other than me. couple extra traps drags and stakes . kill pole. dead stuff. I keep extra trap tags, pliers, safety wire and swivels in my trap bag


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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6541484
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I like Boco’s trailer! I saw a picture from the back and it doesn’t have a straight axle. I like that idea. That’s going to be my next build.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: Gator Foot] #6541489
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Originally Posted by Gator Foot
I like Boco’s trailer! I saw a picture from the back and it doesn’t have a straight axle. I like that idea. That’s going to be my next build.

Is the axle more like this " ^ " (not as steep, of course)


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Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: Ditchdiver] #6541494
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I would say, yes. I would still put support on the spindles for strength.

Re: Beefing up a 4wheeler for trapping [Re: *44] #6542470
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The rack is handy too. [Linked Image]


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