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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6542462
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lol paul that was mentioned in his lure and bait evaluation book as well! That's what sparked my interest in bacon grease


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: scheide] #6542504
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Originally Posted by scheide
There you go Rich proof don't get any better than that. It's even in TX. LOL


Ya it might help put a shine on their coat too. Those Texas coyotes need all the help they can get. Lol


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: TONY.F] #6542508
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
ITS MURDER ON FERAL CATS


Now that's interesting, if it's attractive to those cats then it should be good on those other cats too.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6542753
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R.p id like to think it will work good on bobbys! But I don't believe it to be a bait problem as much as the guy applying it! Cats are my one true struggle! I can catch them by accident, but ive only ever caught one in a cat specific set. all others were in k-9 sets. Lol the ferals on the bacon bait were cat specific sets just wrong kind of cat!


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6542798
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Here's my suggestion.

Go to your mom and pop type restaurant And I guess any fast food joint would also work.And have them save all their grill scrapping's and their fryer oil. Now you will have meat scrapes and fish scrapes If they do Friday night fish fry's. Take the grease and set It out In the hot sun. The fines will rise to the top and you will have a nice thin oil pour that off and that can be used In many different ways. First one that comes to mind Is a trailing scent. Then what you have left Is the heavy grease that has all the good stuff In It.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6542836
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I just picked up 5 gallons of fryer oil today. The gal asked if I wanted more. I said sure, when will you have more? She said for a while she has to change it out daily. So I will have grease coming out my ears. Should make a great trailing scent or bait station. Stop by if anyone wants any.

Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543111
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the thought of trailing scent or chumm opens up a few ideas


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543120
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I just finish ground up some beaver meat now and just need to put the bacon grease in it after. I wonder how much I should put in it after I have tainted the meat any ides?


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: coydog2] #6543264
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Originally Posted by coydog2
I just finish ground up some beaver meat now and just need to put the bacon grease in it after. I wonder how much I should put in it after I have tainted the meat any ides?
unless someone on here has throughly tested the combination of those two Ingredients and wanted to share you would just be getting someone's opinion. Without testing you wouldn't even know if adding those two together in any combination would be an improvement over one of them by themself.
I would start by testing the two side by side in multiple locations until you can decide if one gets more attention than the other. Take the preferred one and add a little of the other and test the best ingredient beside the two combined and start building from there. Then you will have learned what the animals like best.

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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543274
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Ok thank you for your advice


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543387
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Real good!!! As an add or by itself. Tracie's formula is rock solid to catch and draw. So is his flat set idea! They just gotta pee on something. grin


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: TONY.F] #6543462
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
the thought of trailing scent or chumm opens up a few ideas

X2.

It may lure in a bear though if one isn't careful.

Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543730
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I use beaver meat since I trap them anyways so that is why I use the meat beside the tails I make oil from. I just looking for a change up for the mix. also different smells. Pork and beaver have there own smell. If it works for who ever then go for it .I rather eat the bacon then use it for make bait.So that is why I looking to use the grease. Also if one dose eat beaver they are not as fatty as pork..The main fat is on the skin.And yes I did made a mix with that also.My coydog love it ,when he smells it . But not let him eat it .Use it for the coyotes. He get his own food.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: joepennanti] #6543745
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When pressed for details they'll usually say it's due to the high fat content. .



I believe that is almost correct, but a lot say because the books and videos say so. That's "almost" like rubber stamping a bait and have never even used it, but jumped on the band wagon because everyone else says it's the holy grail. The crystal ball says the only true testament to what you ask is to test it and find out. "Almost " like a wasted trip into the woods if one is wondering how effective a bait ingredient would be to animals when you're already out there attempting to trap or scout the animals you're after, then ask for results from other folks experience. Hundreds to thousands of "elite" recipes on the net taken from books, videos, people and the greats? Animals taking the same trapping instruction classes and watching the same bait and lure videos?


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6543996
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I have not tried that bait but I cant help but think that combo of fat and honey is definitely a high energy combination. it ought to work


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6544024
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Imo the biggest draw to the bacon bait is the high fat content. I think we can all agree when fall rolls around the animals are looking for any food that will build energy, (protein)and fat to get them through winter. Is there anything out there that is higher in fat content than fat itself? Only thing I can think of is bone marrow, is that fat or protein? Anyone ever try the meat saw bone dust from a locker plant? That would have meat, fat, bone and marrow in it, then if you really wanted to get wild you could add the bacon grease to it.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6544044
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I think we can all agree when fall rolls around the animals are looking for any food that will build energy, (protein)and fat to get them through winter.


This is why paying attention to the diet and behavior of the animals you target pays off. Cuts out all the extra BS when it comes to bait and lure and in return puts more fur in your traps. It is entertaining to watch folks jump through hoops to come up with the masterpiece.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6544048
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If you wanted to test the theory about the fat being the draw you could take some straight pork lard but it in one hole and in a second hole close by put some cooked bacon meat (remove as much fat from the meat as you can) and see which hole gets worked harder. My money would be on the meat.

Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: rpmartin] #6544105
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Fat doesn't build fat. It all gets burned as energy not stored. Same with meat. At least in humans from everything I read. Honey can be converted to fat if calories are not needed. I'm no vet or DR but I know in cold weather a warm blooded animal needs a lot of calories to produce body heat. Even a warm blooded animal with fur. I bet that bacon odor we humans all like is carried a long ways even in cold weather, even after more fat and honey is added.

Like I said I have not tried that one but I just can't imagine it not catching whatever finds it most of the time.


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Re: How good is bacon grease for coyotes? [Re: danny clifton] #6544270
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Fat doesn't build fat. It all gets burned as energy not stored. Same with meat. At least in humans from everything I read. Honey can be converted to fat if calories are not needed. I'm no vet or DR but I know in cold weather a warm blooded animal needs a lot of calories to produce body heat. Even a warm blooded animal with fur. I bet that bacon odor we humans all like is carried a long ways even in cold weather, even after more fat and honey is added.

Like I said I have not tried that one but I just can't imagine it not catching whatever finds it most of the time.


That's not true at all. Fat is full of calories. Calories are either burned or stored as fat. Why do you think people watching their weight eat leaner cuts of meat and avoid fat? I've skinned a lot of mighty fat coyotes. The reason they were fat is because they sought out and ate food that had a high calorie content. What didn't get burned turned to fat. I would have to assume they got fat during the summer when hunting was good and they moved very little. Coyotes are gluttons year around, but especially in the fall and winter. Imo that's why most baits do so well after most of the prey base is gone and they still want to eat, eat ,eat.


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