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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549452
06/04/19 04:37 PM
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X2 on the foot catch if it were a body catch or neck catch I wouldn't think they would pull the loop down tight without getting caught. Depending on the lock you are using also. I have caught a few coyotes by the foot (not on purpose) but this is the only thing I could think of without having the coyote there when you check.

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549633
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My talk at the FTA will be on the firing vs drag. swing out fire vs downward fire. And if the support is not solid the best loaded cable will miss. On a k9 or cat the animal has a vertical chest.(swing out fire)for the cable to be pulled down means either the animal got head, both front feet and most of the body through the loop before it started to fire or drag, or the animal stopped and backed up before the lock could set, or as was stated a foot. Most of the time for me when I a get a pull down the loop was too low for the spot and the animal stepped or jumped through. But again who knows


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: The Beav] #6549675
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Look at your lock as looking at a clock. If your lock Is In the 1 o'clock position it's going to take a lot to get It to fall. If It's In 11 o'clock position It's going to fall a lot easier.

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Aren’t one and eleven o’ clock the same position distance wise from center?

I fail to see how eleven o clock (30 degrees left of center) is any better than one o clock (30 degrees right of center).

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549683
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Well It depends on how your looking at It. If your looking at the loop and the lock Is on your right then the lock would be at the 1 o'clock position. And In my opinion would be harder for It to close since It has to move up the loop and past the 12 o'clock position.. If the lock would be at the 11 o'clock position It would take less movement to close It.


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549725
06/05/19 12:23 AM
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Well Beav I think you need glasses, or new ones. as it takes the same amount of effort to move the lock the same distance from left to right, or vice/versus in my experience. If the lock is in the 11 o,clock position it still has to go up and over the 12 position. Examples as in my previous post. [Linked Image]


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549744
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I think what Boone is trying to say is that 11 and 1 o'clock ARE the same, it just depends on which direction the animal is coming down the trail. That is, with '12 o'clock' being top center.

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: bctomcat] #6549865
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Originally Posted by bctomcat
Well Beav I think you need glasses, or new ones. as it takes the same amount of effort to move the lock the same distance from left to right, or vice/versus in my experience. If the lock is in the 11 o,clock position it still has to go up and over the 12 position. Examples as in my previous post. [Linked Image]


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Well In my opinion when the lock is on the whammy side of 12 o'clock It takes more effort for the loop to close since the lock Is being pulled up and over the 12 o'clock position. I want my lock on the other side of 12 o'clock so It more or less Is free falling when critter sticks It's head thought It.


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: John Graham] #6549925
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Originally Posted by John Graham
I think what Boone is trying to say is that 11 and 1 o'clock ARE the same, it just depends on which direction the animal is coming down the trail. That is, with '12 o'clock' being top center.

Correct, that is what I was trying to show, in my previous pictures.


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549956
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With the lock on the down side of 12 you will have a lot of closed loops here because of wind


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6549975
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I like mine around 11:37


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Boco] #6550186
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Originally Posted by Boco
I like mine around 11:37


Would that be Canadian time?


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Cathouse Jim] #6550208
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Originally Posted by Cathouse Jim
Originally Posted by Boco
I like mine around 11:37


Would that be Canadian time?


No that would be the time period in and for New Foundland & Labrador found in Canada since 1949

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: The Beav] #6550236
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I totally agree the lock needs to go up slightly over the top before it fires shut to ensure the coyote is fully committed to going through the loop. Far less knocked down snares as well. Its just like adding pan tension to a trap to ensure the animal is fully committed before the the trap fires. Once the coyote starts the snare moving though, it should fire shut very fast, why a loaded snare is so important IMO. #9 is the best support wire by far but still using as short of a length of it as you need to hold your snare in position is important. No need to use 30" of wire if you can get by with 12" off a killpole, tree, or other ridged support. (of course this isn't always an option for cable restraint states, but we were talking about real snaring. smile )

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: danny clifton] #6550239
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
With the lock on the down side of 12 you will have a lot of closed loops here because of wind


Here too, plus rabbits, coons, possums, and all that other junk that hits the bottom of the loop.

I rarely ever have a knocked down snare without a catch unless its deer going over the loop.

Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: ~ADC~] #6550274
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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6550384
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Watched a Gary Jepson dvd. He has his lock around 2:00(or 10:00)


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: Koss2005] #6550386
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We don't have much In the way of wind problems here. And with a 12" loop 12" off the ground 95% of non targets are gong under the loop without hitting It. With most If not all of my snaring done after Dec 1st non target's aren't much of a issue.
And I will make a slight kink In that cable so the lock Is sitting just about flat but just on the verge of falling.
It seems to be working for me.


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Re: Question, snaring coyotes [Re: the Blak Spot] #6550496
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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
Watched a Gary Jepson dvd. He has his lock around 2:00(or 10:00)
If your using a well loaded snare they will easily and quickly jump over the hoop and close very quickly with little pressure on bottom of loop.


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