I want the truth.
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Visited a friend at rehab last night and the therapist, (middle eastern) began asking questions about farming. She asked about how and when things are planted. She then remarked about how she learned that Native Americans taught the settlers how to grow vegetables for Thanksgiving.
My question is, were there no vegetables in England prior to the 1500s?
-Goofy-
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06/12/19 08:45 AM
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No corn or tomatoes, maybe squash, either. 'New World' plants. Charlie
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No corn or tomatoes, maybe squash, either. 'New World' plants. Charlie Thanks Charlie. Didn't realize that. Pretty sure they had swine and chickens, what did they feed them instead of corn?
-Goofy-
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No corn or tomatoes, maybe squash, either. 'New World' plants. Charlie pretty sure the bible taks about corn ..
The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
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Europe had small grains. Wheat, Barley, Rye, Flax, etc.
Maize, or what we call 'corn' came from The Americas.
Charlie
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Small grains; Wheat, Barley, Rye,
Charlie + turnip, clover, cabbage, onion, peas, beans. also apple/cherry trees.
-- It seems all of Greece knows what is the right thing to do, but it is only the Spartans that do anything about it. --
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The Bible means wheat when it says corn. Do some research. doesnt it say its ok to eat ear corn from any field .... maybe it means a ear of wheat...lol
The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
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The Bible means wheat when it says corn. Do some research. doesnt it say its ok to eat ear corn from any field .... maybe it means a ear of wheat...lol Yes, this. Charlie
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06/12/19 09:21 AM
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Corn refers to barley, rye, wheat- what we call corn is properly maize. Most of the foods we eat are American in origin, tomato, potato, beans, maize, sweet potato, peanuts, peppers, avocados, cranberries, black raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, elderberries, huckleberries, papayas, pawpaws, passionfruit, pineapples, red raspberries, strawberries, squashes and more were unknown in the old world. iirc they did have beets, turnips and onions.
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Matthew 12:1 King James Version. (Not sure what year Of Translation)
At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
-Goofy-
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No corn or tomatoes, maybe squash, either. 'New World' plants. Charlie Corn, squash, beans were typically grown together and known as 3 sisters. The sisters plants are still grown together.
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No swine here, South America had the auracana chicken.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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06/12/19 09:41 AM
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History vegetables is interesting.
Crops native to the americas are tomatoes, "irish" potatoes, corn/maize, true squashes/pumpkins, butter/lima beans, common bush/pole beans, chilis/peppers of all types, tobacco and peanuts.
Many others that we eat today were "available" to Europe but we're either not adopted yet or developed to current status. For instance both field peas and okra as well as true yams were in Africa as were watermelons. Only watermelons had mad their way to Europe. Field peas and okra came through the americas as part of the slave trade prior to going to Europe.
Strangly though many new world crops were already in Europe, via Spain, prior to the English colonization of North America. Yet in the century plus between Columbus and Jamestown few if any had gained widespread use.
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corn noun \ ˈkȯrn \ Definition of corn
1 chiefly dialectal : a small hard particle : grain 2 : a small hard seed —usually used in combination peppercornbarleycorn 3 British : the grain of a cereal grass that is the primary crop of a region (such as wheat in Britain and oats in Scotland and Ireland) also : a plant that produces corn
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