This is a vast question I know

Was wondering what would one put in a bait solution to cause a digging response? Coyote

I’m breaking down some venison and would like to add something in it..

Thanks

Trial and error with ingredients, what triggers a digging response for some doesn't mean you will have the same results. Take a look around at all the people trying to come up with the next best thing with all the thousands of concoctions that are supposed to be the end all formulas. Lots of them folks are still looking. jmo, imho, jme

Seems to me that the last thing you want Is a critter digging at the set. Seems to me that can and would create lots of Issues with dug up and snapped traps. But that's just how I feel about It.

Buy or make some sun rendered fish oil. Catfish trout spoonbills are all good. Pressed wont work

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From my experience a sun rendered fish oil is a great place start as an additive. Ive heard really good things about beaver tail oil but haven't tested it yet myself to speak on it. My personal favorite, and I think Asa was the one to share it on here, is rotten down muskrat gland.

Beav u should dig some mock sets and see if the coyotes will dig at your Rick Casper bait. A lot of good baits and lures will get a digging response down a hole in my experience.

Sorry Danny, didn't see your post about fish oil when I started typing

Thanks all good info

My initial thoughts on the digging came from a bait I purchased a couple years ago and boy did it create a digging response even many weeks after I have removed my traps I’d go by a see where coyotes or fox had dug it up..

Of course I’m still using it and I’m not trying to duplicate just an interest as what might cause this response and would be fun to try and make a little just to see what happens..

Yes sir funny you mentioned the beaver tail oil it’s on my to do list..

As far as the sun rendered fish oil, can anyone point me to a good supplier that I can get it from..

Thanks

Bob Jameson for sun rendered trout or Sudden Valley for spoonbill oil

To my way of thinking what triggers a digging response is something down the hole that is so attractive that the animal wants to taste it or roll on it so bad that it will spend the time and energy to try to get it out for those purposes. With that said from my experience some coyotes are more likely to dig than others. I've got some spots that the majority of the things I test will get dug and other areas that no matter what I test it just gets a sniff down the hole if it's good and that's it.

I use trout oil in my bait solution...

Beav ... the critter should have a foot in a trap before digging much ..

Coyotes and fox will dig just because there Is fresh dirt at a hole It's what they do. I want to catch that critter before It has a chance to dig up my set. Lots of bad things can happen when a critter starts to dig and rolling. They can cover a trap with dirt so It won't go off they can hook a jaw and then your trap Is out of the bed. But If you want to get them digging It's up to you.

I use pipe sets mostly...sheep wool and bait solution. Just like grab sticks. I put my dirt hole about one foot away from my lure , just for eye appeal .

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My way of thinking(I know little)is if that type of bait triggered or set him into seeking out what is in that hole he’s going to work it hard enough and hopefully I get the trap on him before he starts to dig..idk
I can see the digging being a problem if you miss him prior to..but we never miss right..ha

The one bait I have from a maker has just out performed most others I’ve used and this bait creates this response around my area anyways..caught red gray fox and coyote using it..

If you really want to find out how they approach and get an idea of how they circle or do before they start digging or what ever else tickles ya soul, put a cam up and start watching them. You will learn a lot more than just folks telling you to dump this and that while not knowing why you're adding an ingredient, when all that isn't necessary to create interest in that animal. Takes a lot, but not all of the guessing game out of the equation on effectiveness etc and potentially should prevent you from starting to create all types of test batches while waiting years for them to yield the gold and then going out to buy the chemistry set that will be the next thing you'll have to worry about because you may need to be that precise when it comes down to the drop of an ingredient. Then trying to create something based on someone else and their "experience", which turns out to put many back in the same forums asking for other ideas.

You can sit and read a ton of great ideas on paper or on a computer, but how great are these ideas if you have the same questions popping up on attracting animals with the same answers when it comes to ingredients, then have the same ingredients have little to no attraction to the animal they seek? IMHO, jmo, jm2c and any other formal opinion layout I forgot to add, I believe if you have the skill set to set yourself up for success in the basics when it comes to trap placement, then you will be ahead of the game. That goes for virtually any animal you are after. Getting them there and manipulating them in getting them to move at the hole by holding their interest is all that should be needed and is very easy to do.

I don't believe you need them to create craters if you have the skill set in trap placement and then really trying to understand how the animal you are after operates when it comes down to feeding habits, behavior through out the year not just during the months you trap etc. Just a basic understanding of the animals you seek to trap will put more fur in the area you trap, not necessarily in your traps because I believe it takes more than bait and lure to be successful at trapping in general.

Thanks TDHP

I’m basically just playing around but also just curious as to what triggers a canine to react differently to different types of baits or lures..in my mind it’s teaching me how or maybe understand how to use these baits or lures..I’m guilty of using whatever feels good at the moment while making a set..
But I’m also guilty of trying to pin down areas where coyotes frequent or how they use an area..
I understand how important it is to set on location, not saying I figured this out either but I spend a lot of time trying..so, let’s say I’m on location do I just not bait it or lure it because I’m on location?
Probably not, I want him to work my set..Understandable there is no magic potion out there but some do work better than others..imo

This can be applied to many types of hunting..Most of my time was spent archery hunting for deer.
while my friends were dumping bait, mineral blocks, and every type of magic in a bottle I was figuring out how to hunt them without all this stuff and did quite well for my area, I’m no monster buck killer but I can quickly find areas that deer use most of the time..I was to poor and lazy to keep up with the baiting process..energy was used to figure out how deer use an area..
This is just like trapping except I’m not there in a tree with an arrow to slice through my target animal all I have is my trap so I need a little help to capture this animal...bait urine lure

Thanks for your input I appreciate it..

most of the time before they start digging they put their nose in the hole. Then both front feet. And like beave said can kick a lot of dirt over your trap or kick it out of its bed. The Paul Harvey version (rest of the story) is no matter what you do stuff can go wrong.

The devil is in the details

All they have to do is walk up, getting them there is the easy part. Pics and video will help you out a lot.

Maybe I need to rethink this idk...my thoughts were to keep the coyotes feet moving at the set or keep his interest in what's down that hole..If he comes in doesn't really care what's in the hole he off and on his way as quick as he came in...

Certainly not good if he's kicking dirt around and kicks the trap out..

Read your last sentence.... now your letting what u read on the internet supersede what the animals tell....

I like em to dig. I don’t want them to sniff and leave.