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Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? #6576284
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In his book, Roy Kuykendall has a couple handfuls of lure/scent formulas for coyotes. Just wondering if anyone has made them and tried them??

Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #6576342
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I've tried Andy's version of one and liked it.

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Roys formulas work, but back then ingrediants and todays ingrediants arent the same so its a toss up. If you make his formulas ,keep strict records and testing, use what works....there isnt any shortcuts. Good luck.


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Yes sir] #7302178
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I've tried Andy's version of one and liked it.


Whats the name of Andy’s version?


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7302216
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Tainted love. Made some myself last year.

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Yes, that and a 'calf rib bone'. . .

Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7754187
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Gonna try and revive this thread. Andy's tainted love jad become a fav on my line and I'm wondering where I can get the original formula. Which one of Roy's books has these recipes and does anyone know where to get the book?

-Ken


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Ken Smith] #7754945
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Originally Posted by Ken Smith
Gonna try and revive this thread. Andy's tainted love jad become a fav on my line and I'm wondering where I can get the original formula. Which one of Roy's books has these recipes and does anyone know where to get the book?

-Ken

Seal oil = might be hard to come by? LOL!

Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Ken Smith] #7755435
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Ken the Book title is, Fur Harvesting and Predator Control copyright 1975. Page # 44 has his #1 Passion Scent formula.

Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7763882
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Apparently seal oil is sold in Canada but I wonder what would be a good substitute. Or if any kind of quality oil would do. Obviously the seal oil isn't the main attraction with all of the other stuff in it.

Also where would one find this white musk?


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7763911
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White musk is musk xylol and is available at many trapping supply dealers. I even carry it - https://trapperman.com/oils.html



Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7763921
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Ok that's good to know thank you Paul

Now as to the issue with Seal oil, can another oil that is attractive to k9s and cats be used with equal effectiveness?


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7764024
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I would think sea lion oil would be equally effective.

Seriously though, you'll just have to make a small batch with whatever oil and test it to find out.

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Friend of mine got a hold of some seal oil. He tested it against some good fish oil and found the fish to be more attractive.

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You might try some Beaver Tail Oil also?

Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Mark McCary] #7764881
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Originally Posted by Mark McCary
You might try some Beaver Tail Oil also?

I was hoping this would come up as a possible substitute. I have a pint of it waiting on me to use it. I already plan to make a bobcat gland/rub lure with it.


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7764886
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I have a bunch of freezer burned empy oil sacs and was thinking it would make a really good medium to hold scent in a lure, ground u to powder ya know

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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7789434
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I've got everything but the white musk and will substitute with BTO.

I'm making a coyote and cat version. Might have enough for 4 gallons of the coyote, and 1 gallon of the cat.

Tracy I'll send you a jar of both to test next season once it's done


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7789450
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Only add the droppings to a small portion of ur batch. You might like it better without them in it. They made my batch go south in a bad way after several months. There's some unproductive bacteria in that stuff it seems from my experience.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Only add the droppings to a small portion of ur batch. You might like it better without them in it. They made my batch go south in a bad way after several months. There's some unproductive bacteria in that stuff it seems from my experience.


Yeah that's a good idea. The way I read it was to add scat to the little jar that is used daily after it's been half used or something. So I don't think Roy intended to add scat to the whole batch. It becomes a yeast formula once you add the scat to the little jar, but the batch remains yeast free till it hits the daily use jar.


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Originally Posted by Ken Smith
I've got everything but the white musk and will substitute with BTO.

I'm making a coyote and cat version. Might have enough for 4 gallons of the coyote, and 1 gallon of the cat.

Tracy I'll send you a jar of both to test next season once it's done



I meant to say I'll buy the white musk from Dobbins, but plan to substitute the seal oil with bto


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Re: Anyone Try Kukendall Formulas?? [Re: Lazarus] #7789468
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I'd be interested in how Andy dealt with it. It has last for years.

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Yeah his stuff is great. I spoke to him about it in 2020 when I had a bottle running low and he said to add a couple turds to it and mix it up. His looked like it had turds in it when I bought it. And your right it never molded or spoiled I just used the last of it this year.
I bet he added MP. I need to call him and pick his brain about it


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I’d love to find Roy’s book. If anyone has one, I’d love to buy it, rent it or borrow it.

Maybe someone knows a place to buy a copy. I can’t find it in line anywhere.


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Yeah, I've looked and haven't found it either.

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Originally Posted by Centex Trapper
I’d love to find Roy’s book. If anyone has one, I’d love to buy it, rent it or borrow it.

Maybe someone knows a place to buy a copy. I can’t find it in line anywhere.



Check with MINK I LOVE on here , he mihjt be able to help you out.


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